Armed Mexican personnel surround and disarm US soldiers on US SOIL

[Doc Safari]

My vote is double wall fencing, Hyena's loose in between. Followed by machine gun towers and then roving patrols. Leave the carcasses to bleach.

"The Great Wall of the Americas" is my long-term goal.

[Sry0fcr]

So essentially the cartels are our doings, not Mexico's, right?

Mexico has skin in the game to be sure, but yeah. This is a question? Same reason folks are jumping the border, there's a huuuuuuuge market for them (labor).

[Todd.K]

I can care about people without feeling a duty to help them or allow them to come here. I also care about the people who will be doing the shooting and living with that for the rest of their lives. We can better secure our border without going to war, let's start with that. And larger, better armed patrols.

The military is going to go wherever the **** they get told to go. BCT Commanders do not get to decide what the best strategic use of a Stryker is.

We own most of this mess. We allow illegals to work here, their kids to go to our schools, and most are able to get our generous welfare. We have an enormous appetite for drugs that fund the cartels.

[NWPilgrim]

I care about the Mexican people, my wife’s family three generations back is from there. And I support trying to help the people IN Mexico. Good neighbor and all. But I have no sympathy for people who knowingly try to illegally trespass and especially those who do business with cartel coyotes and henchmen to gain entry. My wife’s extended family is very proud to be all American and very many have served in Vietnam, Korea, WWII, and lately in the ME/SEA. They fully support a wall, and whatever is necessary to secure the border against illegal entry. They mostly live in San Antonio and San Diego and are very concerned with the violence and trafficking increase.

We need to make a strong presence on the border that it wipes out illegal crossings and deters the non-cartel migrants. And I support decriminalizing drugs in order to dismantle the financial underpinnings of the drug cartels, and hunting them down and demolishing them wherever they go to ground.

[jpmuscle]

I care about the Mexican people, my wife’s family three generations back is from there. And I support trying to help the people IN Mexico. Good neighbor and all. But I have no sympathy for people who knowingly try to illegally trespass and especially those who do business with cartel coyotes and henchmen to gain entry. My wife’s extended family is very proud to be all American and very many have served in Vietnam, Korea, WWII, and lately in the ME/SEA. They fully support a wall, and whatever is necessary to secure the border against illegal entry. They mostly live in San Antonio and San Diego and are very concerned with the violence and trafficking increase.

We need to make a strong presence on the border that it wipes out illegal crossings and deters the non-cartel migrants. And I support decriminalizing drugs in order to dismantle the financial underpinnings of the drug cartels, and hunting them down and demolishing them wherever they go to ground.

Which is fine and all but they really need to un**** their own country.


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[chuckman]

Have you ever been in the military?

ETA - there is such a thing as two groups of Soldiers trying to figure out what the hell is going on without getting killed by each other. Again, I’m not crazy about the fact that our guys were disarmed, but two small groups of guys ultimately ended up talking. That’s not a hostile act from a foreign country.


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Definitely, happened in Berlin quite a bit.

[chuckman]

Time to invade Mexico and create a 400-mile "No-Man's Land" between the US border and the nearest Mexican settlement or village. And yes, I mean bulldoze Palomas, Juarez, Tijuana, and everything else in the way.

Yes, and cause billions of dollars in improvements, too....

Those border cities were built by American greenbacks and drug money....

[Doc Safari]

Here is the bottom line: Mexico WANTS their people migrating to the US so they dont' have to take care of them and need not fear another revolution.

The current crop of migrants is mostly OTM's, "other than Mexicans." Yes, that includes Asians, Arabs, and whomever else you can think of. It's mostly Central Americans, though.

We literally do not know what percentage of migrants are Islamic jihadists, or Chinese wanting to spy, gang bangers, etc.

The net result is we do not know what these masses of people are going to do to our country, but it ain't gonna be good!

[Diamondback]

The other problem is many if not most would-be revolutionaries in Mexico are Castro-Che-Chavez level Commies...

[NWPilgrim]

Which is fine and all but they really need to un**** their own country.


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Exactly. We should use overwhelming force to secure our border. And if we as a country or individuals want to help Mexicans then do it in their country. But we will never solve their political problems.

But the cartels are not just Mexican. They operate in several countries including the US. We should decriminalize to eliminate the bulk of their cash flow and then hunt them down in the US, Mexico, Central America, wherever. That isn’t to solve Mexico’s problem, that is to eliminate any cartel presence in the US. I would hope we would do the same with all organized crime. There should be an exception to individual prosecution when it comes to organized crime. Once an organization is determined and proven it is engaged in murder then any member of that organization should be “Wanted Dead or Alive or Piecemeal.”