"critical flaw-" in FN pistol

[Henny]

Did anyone actually watch the video?

The FN handgun will NOT FIRE if the slide is out of battery. That isn't a design flaw. If it DID fire out of battery THAT would be a design flaw. You don't want an out of battery discharge.

If you are concerned that your handgun may not fire because the slide is out of battery because it is pressed against an attacker during a struggle you may want to investigate duty revolvers.

Also I just grabbed my Gen 3 Glock 19 and pressed the slide back just enough to tilt the barrel and guess what? You pull the trigger and you GET NOTHING. Of course that is a good thing.

Seriously, this is the most retarded thing I've heard coming out of a PD.

Maybe I got something different out of the video. It seems the caution is if the trigger is pulled during an out of battery situation, when the slide goes back into battery a bump / jar / movement / striking with a plastic faced hammer will cause the gun to discharge.

[jsbhike]

I've just always been taught not to depend on safeties and safety features so I guess I'm old school.

That is obviously a good idea, but once a mechanical device shows it isn't working then replacement is a good idea.

I have no idea if those are unloaded, preloaded(Glock), or fully loaded(XD) striker systems, but I don't recall seeing anything else not fully resetting upon locking back up. Considering that and if the trigger bar/sear is able to work on the striker out of battery would seem to be setting up the real possibility of firing at some point when bumped as the components get some wear on them. While paying attention to the muzzle should avoid directly shooting someone the chance of sitting down too hard and getting a bang isn't going to go over real well either.

[WillBrink]

Maybe I got something different out of the video. It seems the caution is if the trigger is pulled during an out of battery situation, when the slide goes back into battery a bump / jar / movement / striking with a plastic faced hammer will cause the gun to discharge.

That's what I saw.

[Jellybean]

Maybe I got something different out of the video. It seems the caution is if the trigger is pulled during an out of battery situation, when the slide goes back into battery a bump / jar / movement / striking with a plastic faced hammer will cause the gun to discharge.

This is the correct conclusion.

It is not merely a "the gun won't fire when OOB", it is a "IF you attempt to fire when OOB, THEN the trigger/magic internal shooty mechanisms may not reset correctly RESULTING in an unexpected and unwanted "bang" if you so much as sneeze with the gun in hand, WITHOUT pulling the trigger a second time."
There is a comparison picture in the video between the two trigger reset positions for those that watched the video thoroughly...
It's not a matter of "just rack the slide" etc/so forth, because ANY movement or action with the gun after it has activated this condition can/will cause it to fire unexpectedly.

IMHO, this is something that should warrant the recall/refund/substitute replacement of ALL FNS pistols on the market immediately. In a situation like that, who is going to check their gun to see if the trigger hasn't reset correctly? More importantly, in a fight like that, are you even going to notice that you tried to take a contact shot and it failed *specifically* because the gun was out of battery? And then...what...ask for a time-out mid fight so you can examine the gun? Nah, you're just going to keep fighting til it's over, which means that next round is going to go off randomly at some undetermined time whenever the gun moves or gets bumped next (or if you assume a standard misfire and default to T/R/B remedial action), WITHOUT you pulling the trigger, which means it's going anywhere....maybe even into you.
No thanks.

[SteyrAUG]

Maybe I got something different out of the video. It seems the caution is if the trigger is pulled during an out of battery situation, when the slide goes back into battery a bump / jar / movement / striking with a plastic faced hammer will cause the gun to discharge.

I got that, but honestly, I would kind of expect that possibility from a gun where the trigger HAS BEEN PULLED.