Overseas Move as an NFA Owner

[easy]

If you put a barrel or upper that is longer than 16 inches on it, it’s no longer an NFA item. You could give it to your relatives to keep until you return.

Ok, technically 'no longer an SBR', but is the lower still a registered NFA item? The lower is the serialized and taxed part is it not?

[BigWaylon]

Ok, technically 'no longer an SBR', but is the lower still a registered NFA item? The lower is the serialized and taxed part is it not?

Yes. But it’s not under the purview of the NFA if not figured as an NFA firearm.

Meaning I can:
1. Remove the upper and sell the lower with no NFA paperwork
2. Remove the upper and travel with the lower across state lines with no paperwork
3. Swap to a 16” upper and sell the complete rifle with no NFA paperwork
4. Swap to a 16” upper and travel with no paperwork
5. Swap to a 16” upper and hunt where SBRs are prohibited for that use

[p7fl]

Banks are not an issue. I downsized a few years ago. Walked into a Bank of America , told them I was renting a box for gun storage.
They smiled when I came back with a bunch of subguns and MGs. Guard even helped carry everything.

Question for the OP. Why not just put a lock on your NFA lower, keep the key, leave it in your brother's safe and he won't have access to it?

[ginzomatic]

Yes. But it’s not under the purview of the NFA if not figured as an NFA firearm.

Meaning I can:
1. Remove the upper and sell the lower with no NFA paperwork
2. Remove the upper and travel with the lower across state lines with no paperwork
3. Swap to a 16” upper and sell the complete rifle with no NFA paperwork
4. Swap to a 16” upper and travel with no paperwork
5. Swap to a 16” upper and hunt where SBRs are prohibited for that use

that's good to know- thanks

[Hmac]

Ok, technically 'no longer an SBR', but is the lower still a registered NFA item? The lower is the serialized and taxed part is it not?

Doesn’t matter. The law prohibits the possession of the SBR, not the “NFA registered lower”. If it doesn’t have a short barrel, it’s not an SBR.

This stuff isn’t spelled out clearly in the language of the NFA but it is/was part of their NFA FAQ on the ATF website. People way overthink this issue.

[Texpatriate]

Banks are not an issue. I downsized a few years ago. Walked into a Bank of America , told them I was renting a box for gun storage.
They smiled when I came back with a bunch of subguns and MGs. Guard even helped carry everything.

Question for the OP. Why not just put a lock on your NFA lower, keep the key, leave it in your brother's safe and he won't have access to it?

Is that an option as far as preventing "access" to it? I mean, the lock prevents him from using it, but does he still have "access" to it? Its in his safe and he has the combination, so that's "access", right? It's baffling to me how asinine and arbitrary these laws can be.

[Iraqgunz]

Pretty sure that won't fly since he can still access it, lock or no lock.

Banks are not an issue. I downsized a few years ago. Walked into a Bank of America , told them I was renting a box for gun storage.
They smiled when I came back with a bunch of subguns and MGs. Guard even helped carry everything.

Question for the OP. Why not just put a lock on your NFA lower, keep the key, leave it in your brother's safe and he won't have access to it?

[Iraqgunz]

You have been given some solid options. Do not overthink this.

Is that an option as far as preventing "access" to it? I mean, the lock prevents him from using it, but does he still have "access" to it? Its in his safe and he has the combination, so that's "access", right? It's baffling to me how asinine and arbitrary these laws can be.

[Hmac]

Yes. But it’s not under the purview of the NFA if not figured as an NFA firearm.

Meaning I can:
1. Remove the upper and sell the lower with no NFA paperwork
2. Remove the upper and travel with the lower across state lines with no paperwork
3. Swap to a 16” upper and sell the complete rifle with no NFA paperwork
4. Swap to a 16” upper and travel with no paperwork
5. Swap to a 16” upper and hunt where SBRs are prohibited for that use

So...#6 might be “Swap the upper to a 16” (or remove it) and give it to your father or brother to store for awhile”.

[ginzomatic]

Banks are not an issue. I downsized a few years ago. Walked into a Bank of America , told them I was renting a box for gun storage.
They smiled when I came back with a bunch of subguns and MGs. Guard even helped carry everything.

As a Yankee, this is the expectation that I would have of the interaction in Texas- which is where the OP is located.