Re-arsenal markings

[halfmoonclip]

What markings should a 1911 display if it has been re-arsenaled?
A search showed nothing.
Thanks,
Moon

[tb-av]

Bottom of page shows a "rebuild stamp"

http://coolgunsite.com/pistols/Frame...20Markings.htm

[halfmoonclip]

Thnx, tb-av. My particular Remington Rand has the 'FJA' inspectors mark and the 'P' behind the mag release, and crossed cannons on the right rear of the slide.
Doubtful that any of that means a rebuild.
Moon

[Ron3]

This has been confusing for me.

I saw that website before, but it talks about arsenal markings, not RE-arsenal markings. (edited to add, "ah, I see there are three examples shown")

I'm trying to find out if a 1943 parkerized 1911 a1 someone I know has was parkerized by the DoD or a private company.

[halfmoonclip]

Ron, concur, and I believe I saw you post elsewhere.
Also saw the examples of rearsenal markings; perhaps this thread will attract some additional information.
Moon

[mack7.62]

Here is some good info:

http://sightm1911.com/lib/history/rebuild.htm

Don't confuse the arsenal rebuild markings with the inspectors marks which were put on new guns accepted by the govt. and a P means it was tested with a proof round.

Arsenal Rebuild Marks:

AA = Augusta Arsenal
AN = Anniston Arsenal
BA = Benecia Arsenal
MR = Mt Rainer Ordinance Depot
OG = Ogden Arsenal
RA = Raritan Arsenal
RIA = Rock Island Arsenal
RRA = Red River Arsenal
SA = Springfield Arsenal
SAA = San Antonio Arsenal

Inspector Marks:

CSR: Charles S Reed Colt S/N 717,282-723,000
EB: Ernest Blind, RIA inspector
E.E.C: Edmund E. Chapman Remington UMC S/N 1-21676
FK: Frank Krack, RIA inspector
GHD: Guy H. Drewry Colt S/N 845,000 to 2,360,600
GHS Monogram: Gilbert H. Stewart. Found on Colt M1911s (SN 101,500 to 230,000), M1907, M1917, M1903, and M1 rifles at different periods. Stamped after finish.
JKC: Lt. Col. James K. Christmas, Singer frames (or John K. Clement?)
JMG Monogram: J.M. Gilbert found on Colt 1911s from 1917 to 1918 (SN 230,001 to 302,000). Stamped after finish
FJA: Frank J. Atwood. Found on Remington Rand and Ithaca 1911A1s. Stamped after finish.
JSB: John S. Begley (civilian), late Colt M1911A1 frames
RCD: Lt. Col. R. C. Downey, Union Switch and Signal frames
RS: Robert Sears Colt S/N 723,000 to 750,500
WB: Waldemar Broberg S/N Colt 750,500 to 861,000
WGP Monogram: Walter G. Penfield, Major Colt S/N 1-101,500
WTG: Walter T Gorton Colt S/N 700,000-710,000

[peruna]

This has been confusing for me.

I saw that website before, but it talks about arsenal markings, not RE-arsenal markings. (edited to add, "ah, I see there are three examples shown")

I'm trying to find out if a 1943 parkerized 1911 a1 someone I know has was parkerized by the DoD or a private company.

"Re-arsenaled" is not a term. Arsenal rebuild or overhaul would be the correct term.

Normally, the arsenal stamp is going to be on the frame near the trigger guard, but there is not always a stamp applied.

FJA, P and crossed cannons are proof or inspection/acceptance markings applied to the pistol when new.

[Ron3]

"Re-arsenaled" is not a term. Arsenal rebuild or overhaul would be the correct term.

Normally, the arsenal stamp is going to be on the frame near the trigger guard, but there is not always a stamp applied.

FJA, P and crossed cannons are proof or inspection/acceptance markings applied to the pistol when new.

Thanks.

So, did the DoD ever have blued 1911's parkerized?

I know of an originally blued 1943 1911 that is now parkerized. I see no rebuild marks.

[mack7.62]

Thanks.

So, did the DoD ever have blued 1911's parkerized?

I know of an originally blued 1943 1911 that is now parkerized. I see no rebuild marks.

Of course, 1911's and some A1's were blued, after parkerizing became the finish of choice any 1911 or A1 that needed refinishing would have that done. Also not all rebuilds were done at arsenals, unit direct and general support and depot rebuilds/repairs would be common practice. Arsenal re-builds would mainly be reserved for large groups of arms being prepared for war time issue or storage.

[peruna]

Thanks.

So, did the DoD ever have blued 1911's parkerized?

I know of an originally blued 1943 1911 that is now parkerized. I see no rebuild marks.

By 1943, all Colt M1911A1s were parked. Bluing stopped around the 736,000 serial number range for Colts.

Ithaca and Remington Rand were still bluing up to and including 1943 though, if I recall correctly.

If a blued pistol went through an arsenal rebuild, it would have been parkerized as part of the rebuild.

But, any bubba could have worked on it between then and now, so no telling who did the re-park if there is no arsenal stamp.