Roger, you forgot bougey.Originally Posted by Duffy
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Roger, you forgot bougey.
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I only like KAC because they are offensively expensive and LMT because they make tranny ARs.
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How that KB guy from Q talks about his customers and competitionBetter yet is all the $hit some manufacturers talk about each other on TOS.
It's worse than a bunch of high schoolers over there, each trying to win the "LIKE ME" award.
Certainly doesn't seem to be in effect on TOS...
I completely agree with markm. I don't mind manufacturers of low cost stuff as long as they are honest about what products actually are (and that these LWRC DI rifles suuuck haha). I honestly think this site is a little too tough on PSA. These are $330 ARs and are actually pretty ok. Not colt, not KAC, or anything like that but they allow people who would be typically excluded from the market due to financial constraints (1st time buyers, working people with a lot of other expenses, etc). PSA is about as 2nd amendment friendly as any company I have seen so I think they need to get a little more credit for what they do. I own one and it is ok for what it is. Its nice to have a rifle I don't care about.
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One day...I wanna mate an HK416 upper to an Anderson Lower just to unleash the Effing Fury...
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Bet it would run!
GET IN YOUR BUBBLE!
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Bet it would run!
GET IN YOUR BUBBLE!
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ANDERSON LOWERS = junk!!!! When I started to get parts together to build my first AR I told the Smith at my local gun shop I wanted him to order me a quality lower not an Anderson because everyone said they were junk . He said he had built hundreds of lowers and uppers with about every brand sold and kept up with ones he had problems with and Anderson was as good as any . He said he had to lap uppers from the most expensive companies and some Anderson uppers were ok out of the box . People are snobbish and want anything they own to be great and others brand to be junk .
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I recently had a issue with an upper from a well known and highly respected manufacturer. Rather than unleash capslock hell on the internet, I sent them an email. I got a phone call back the next morning and they took care of the situation in spades, way above and beyond what was expected. Funny how going through the proper channels first seems to lend the best results most of the time.
While it's not quite the same ratio of poor to bougie, I have a BCM BFH upper that I put on a PSA lower and posted a picture of it in some Facebook gun groups. The poors and the big wallet flexers were all angry that day. I've thought about form 1'ing the lower, since it's the first PSA lower I've had that was in spec all around, then seeing how angry they get. I've spent $200 and waited a couple weeks for things that brought less joy and excitement.
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PSA doesn’t perform rigorous QC like our favorite brands, so there are plenty of documented incidents of improperly staked gas keys, castle nuts, overgassed barrels, etc. My experience with two complete lowers has been positive overall. They certainly cut corners by weakly staking the castle nuts on the two lowers. It never caused a problem or backed out, but my dad and I eventually staked them properly a few months ago. The RE seemed to be very lightly torqued as well (shoutout to Iraqgunz for predicting that). And they use carbine weight buffers.How that KB guy from Q talks about his customers and competition
I completely agree with markm. I don't mind manufacturers of low cost stuff as long as they are honest about what products actually are (and that these LWRC DI rifles suuuck haha). I honestly think this site is a little too tough on PSA. These are $330 ARs and are actually pretty ok. Not colt, not KAC, or anything like that but they allow people who would be typically excluded from the market due to financial constraints (1st time buyers, working people with a lot of other expenses, etc). PSA is about as 2nd amendment friendly as any company I have seen so I think they need to get a little more credit for what they do. I own one and it is ok for what it is. Its nice to have a rifle I don't care about.
That said, I still recommend their lowers to friends looking for a quality first rifle on the cheap. Buy a complete PSA lower, spend $30 for a proper buffer, and snap that sumbitch onto a quality complete upper. The point about them being 2A friendly is a good one. It wouldn’t excuse them from putting out true junk (DPMS), but as a customer I certainly appreciate when they went out of their way to get mags to CA. Ditto for Magpul handing out PMAGs in VT. We rightly chastise companies for anti 2A moves, but we can do a better job of supporting pro 2A companies.
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Good talk here. When I decided to buy an AR I did as little research as possible. I wanted to avoid the paralysis by analysis trap I so often get into. I decided on a DDV7LW based on the way it felt and looked, no joke. I am happy with it and don't give two flips about the FixNICS issue Marty had. I actually had to go look it back up as I forgot.
The reason I asked is because of a comment I received from a random guy at the range the other day. He saw I had a DD said he'd never shoot one for the love of God or money. I asked him why and his response was "as if you didn't know". I thought that was really weird, almost conspiracy tin foil hattish. It seems like the more I look lately, the more I see this kid of stuff. Most of my hobbies have some really weird people skirting the edges, I guess this is no different.
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