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Thread: What's the current picks for citizen-available barrier blind 9mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnburglar View Post
    I wouldnt say 1/5 of an inch in expansion is a 'mind blowing difference in terminal performance'. Pistols poke holes no matter what. Rifles **** shit up.

    Obvisouly this is just an opinion. I do carry gold dot but I wouldnt hesitate for a second to carry ball.
    Except ball ammo is not barrier-blind; ball ammo often exhibit serious jacket-core separation, and also tends to suffer deflection much more, particularly in the case of auto glass.
    Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    I carry Ranger T 147. Performs well in every test I can find. Says “Ranger” right on the box.
    That's HOOAH. Follow this guy.

    It's whay I've been carrying too.

    I always look to Doc GKR's list for this.

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    Federal HST, Ranger T147, Speer GD's and Hornady Critical Duty all do the job well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViniVidivici View Post
    I always look to Doc GKR's list for this.
    Where is Doc's list currently located? There used to be a pinned thread on this board, but I'm not seeing it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM Engineer View Post
    Where is Doc's list currently located? There used to be a pinned thread on this board, but I'm not seeing it now.
    Pistol Forum should have it. Not linking in case it’s bad form to link to another forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggammell View Post
    Pistol Forum should have it. Not linking in case it’s bad form to link to another forum.
    It's okay, we're all grown-ups.

    Dr Roberts has some stickied threads over there that are very useful. I'll dig out an exact link, and post it. He's also got a lot of excellent data on barrier-blind rifle rounds.

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    Here's an article Dr Roberts wrote concerning 147-grain 9mm duty ammo: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....y-load-testing

    One on 5.56 duty loads: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....-mm-Duty-Loads

    Another for 12-gauge shotgun ammo: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....or-LE-duty-use

    This one is a deep dive into more duty handgun ammo choices: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....f-Defense-Ammo

    I strongly recommend to newcomers that they take some time to read those threads, buy quality stuff the Doctor recommends, then go practice. A lot.

    Hope that helps.

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    Thanks guys. I’m leaning towards some Critical Duty 135gr, but I’m wondering how much difference the +P makes. I usually try to avoid +P stuff just because why use a 9mm if you’re gonnna juice it up to .40 levels.

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