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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    I am against EVER using them first. However, I believe that using them in retaliation is a MUST. I don't give a shit what our "conventional" capabilities are, if one is sent our way the offender gets canned sunshine in return. And if it is our civilian population that is targeted, then theirs is too but ten-fold.
    I agree, but nuclear winters also aren't fun... even a small nuclear exchange between a couple countries would have seriously bad global impacts on the eco system.
    My take on it is, I guess it just depends on what and how many they hit us with first...

    Quote Originally Posted by Benito View Post
    LOL
    Yeah way to make America great again, bruh!
    Openly threatening (with nukes, no less) a nation half the world away that:
    a) isn't flagrantly violating your territorial sovereignty by pumping "immigrants" across your vast unprotected./shoddily protected border
    b) isn't actively building mosques, training and sending the most rabid Jihadist imams to said mosques to further agitate and wage Jihad (of both the legal and illegal variety)

    Meanwhile Mexico and Saudi Arabia, respectively, are doing both those things.
    But I guess Mexico and Saudi Arabia aren't rivals and ancient hated tribal enemies of Our Greatest Ally, so policy will be tailored accordingly.

    #MIGA
    Those are valid points, however, one also needs to look at what Iran is doing globally, and, from what little I know, it does seem that they are behind fomenting a lot of terrorism and unrest in the ME and elsewhere, so...There's more than enough reason for us to be antagonistic with them. Although I also think half of this constant Iran-oriented saber rattling is us just looking to find an excuse to invade them on top of everything else...
    But I also think, as you've said, that there are FAR more threatening countries and events for us to focus on, both for national security and global stability.

    Quote Originally Posted by Honu View Post
    also piers morgan is a moron trying to set him up for a sound bite to be used by the left that is all nothing more
    This.
    It's funny, because PM has had some good shit to say against the lunacy going on in recent years, but then as soon as Trump gets in the room he goes right back to his old lefty self...
    "Once we get some iron in our souls, we'll get some iron in our hands..."

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    I think Trump is just acknowledging that there are lots of nukes in the world today, and that if ' Anyone '
    were to use one on us, kiss your ass good bye !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand58742 View Post
    And how many nukes has he slung around the globe since being elected because of his thin skinned, reactionary nature?

    That's the same Democrat talking point was used prior to the election along with a bunch of mouthbreathing Democrats in Congress trying to take away the President's authority to use nuclear weapons. Guess what? Just more fear mongering from the liberal idiots on the left you've bought into.

    Congrats and give yourself a piece of cake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellybean View Post
    I agree, but nuclear winters also aren't fun... even a small nuclear exchange between a couple countries would have seriously bad global impacts on the eco system.
    My take on it is, I guess it just depends on what and how many they hit us with first...
    So you would absorb a nuclear strike on the U.S. without retaliating in kind, even one-for one? You would be impeached or have a coup. Tens or hundreds of thousands of Americans dead but "We need to suck it up for the environment?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Anyone old enough to remember Reagan being labeled as such by the libtards? He was referred to as a "cowboy".
    Yeah, I don't remember Congress making statements that his authority under law to use nuclear weapons should be removed.

    Of course, Congress wasn't so unhinged back then that I remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand58742 View Post
    Yeah, I don't remember Congress making statements that his authority under law to use nuclear weapons should be removed.

    Of course, Congress wasn't so unhinged back then that I remember.
    No, not specifically, but they were terrified of Ronnie, convinced his "cowboy" swashbuckling ways were gonna land us smack in the middle of a nuclear war with the Soviets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    No, not specifically, but they were terrified of Ronnie, convinced his "cowboy" swashbuckling ways were gonna land us smack in the middle of a nuclear war with the Soviets.
    Was congress as big of communist sympathizers back then as they are today?

    It was before my time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    Was congress as big of communist sympathizers back then as they are today?

    It was before my time.
    Well both houses of Congress had been in Democrat hands pretty much for decades. While they were still leftists they weren't as extreme as they have been in recent years. Talk about "The Swamp"! There were no new up-and-comers to shake things up (i.e. AOC, Omar, Tlaib, et al). This was the era of Tip O'Neill and his cronies on one side and Bob Dole and company on the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Well both houses of Congress had been in Democrat hands pretty much for decades. While they were still leftists they weren't as extreme as they have been in recent years. Talk about "The Swamp"! There were no new up-and-comers to shake things up (i.e. AOC, Omar, Tlaib, et al). This was the era of Tip O'Neill and his cronies on one side and Bob Dole and company on the other.
    They'd fight like cats and dogs during session, but then invite each other over for dinner in the evening.

    Politics was civil back then. Or as civil as it could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellybean View Post
    I agree, but nuclear winters also aren't fun... even a small nuclear exchange between a couple countries would have seriously bad global impacts on the eco system.
    My take on it is, I guess it just depends on what and how many they hit us with first...
    Honestly, once they send theirs, concerns about "environment" are a bottom priority. The real question is will anyone come out alive. Our enemies need to understand there is no such thing as a limited exchange, it's a buy one get ten free situation.

    Everyone needs to be one the same page that it's "all or nothing." Every President needs to understand that reality and as much as I disliked Obama and hated Clinton I think even they understood that reality. The only one who may not have fully gotten it is Carter and even then I can't say for sure, he was in the Navy so he should have grasped certain realities.
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