Hmm, black powder 45 Colt loadings 230-250g bullet at 750-850 fps. Pretty wimpy... we all know that won't stop anything based on the never ending "45 ACP is obsolete" debates. :-)
Just hit me are still shooting (and depending on) cartridges with ballistics that were very common 145 years ago. (granted projectiles have come a long way).
That was more to do with the limitations of black powder than the bullet itself. Anything smaller than .44 propelled by BP wasn't a good choice. 30ish grains of BP behind a 230-255gr LFP, moving it between 800-1000fps, no one was complaining. I don't think I've read any complaints about the .455 Webley, either, which was usually even slower.
Could be. Could be the "Caliber excuse" as well. It goes like this:
Person shot goes down fast:
- 9mm = "see? Works fine".
- Weaker than 9mm = "well, sometimes anything works".
- .40 / .45 / .357 = "well of course he went down fast!"
Now, person shot does NOT go down fast:
- 9mm = "Pff...9mm sucks"
- Less powerfull than 9mm = "well of course that puny cartridge didnt put him down"
- .40 / .45 / .357 = "Well, he was just a tough nut and didnt want to quit! Needed rifle or shotgun to drop that guy".
These calibers (.40, .357, .45) get a pass when they dont work. Or at least people then blame the bullet. I guess these days we can add 9mm to this list, too.
I think the Ellifritz study is closest to the mark. Ergo weaker pistol calibers might average 15 % less effective and hot pistol calibers (.45 +p with late-model jhp's, .357 magnum, etc) might give a small bump in average effectiveness.
Barrier penetration and long range use is another discussion.
I dont think .380 in a blowback improved performance near enough to justify the extra recoil, wear on guns, or loss in capacity versus .32. I don't think it does in a pocket locked breach pistol .380 either.
It the end its mindset, tactics, skill then gear that will save us.
Last edited by Ron3; 06-12-19 at 08:06.
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