No Cert for Kettler

[sundance435]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...-gun-silencers

Can't say I'm surprised. It was a long shot, but I was hoping the Constitutional claim would get some attention (the tax claim was always weak, IMHO). It's disappointing that we can't get 4 votes to grant cert, which reinforces my belief that the court is not nearly as conservative as the left would like people to think. I would like to know if any of them voted in favor of cert. - his wasn't a bad case for them to take on factual grounds, so it's clear to me that they're comfortable with the "reasonable restrictions" implied in Heller and McDonald.

[The Dumb Gun Collector]

These are the guys we are supposed have faith will protect us from the bumpstock bans. #4dchess

[Diamondback]

And people say Roberts and Kavanaugh AREN'T rat's-ass traitors? My bet is we had Thomas, Alito and Gorsuch. If Miller were actually being adhered to, MG's and cans would be found protected by "common military use."

[elephant]

But the 10th US Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the 2nd Amendment does not protect silencers, as they are not "bearable arms".

I will say, ignorance is never a good defense. Cox should have done his due diligence before manufacturing suppressors and then selling said suppressors. Kettler should have researched the laws regarding suppressors before he purchased one. There is enough information online regarding suppressors to give a potential manufacture/buyer a good idea of what is required to posses one. Cox got 8 counts of possession and manufacturing while Kettler got 1 count for possession and playing ignorant didn't help. - Should have gone with the proven "get out of jail" line, "at this point, what difference does it make".

I don't see the SCOTUS overturning anything NFA/GCA related because its 80+ year history. If they opened the books on NFA, I think it would allow certain law makers to add to the list, not lower regulation.

[kwelz]

I will say, ignorance is never a good defense. Cox should have done his due diligence before manufacturing suppressors and then selling said suppressors. Kettler should have researched the laws regarding suppressors before he purchased one. There is enough information online regarding suppressors to give a potential manufacture/buyer a good idea of what is required to posses one. Cox got 8 counts of possession and manufacturing while Kettler got 1 count for possession and playing ignorant didn't help. - Should have gone with the proven "get out of jail" line, "at this point, what difference does it make".

I don't see the SCOTUS overturning anything NFA/GCA related because its 80+ year history. If they opened the books on NFA, I think it would allow certain law makers to add to the list, not lower regulation.

I thought they were acting in regards to state law that "nullified" federal law.

[MegademiC]

If it is not a “bearable arm”, then it is not a firearm.

[jsbhike]

I will say, ignorance is never a good defense. Cox should have done his due diligence before manufacturing suppressors and then selling said suppressors. Kettler should have researched the laws regarding suppressors before he purchased one. There is enough information online regarding suppressors to give a potential manufacture/buyer a good idea of what is required to posses one. Cox got 8 counts of possession and manufacturing while Kettler got 1 count for possession and playing ignorant didn't help. - Should have gone with the proven "get out of jail" line, "at this point, what difference does it make".

I don't see the SCOTUS overturning anything NFA/GCA related because its 80+ year history. If they opened the books on NFA, I think it would allow certain law makers to add to the list, not lower regulation.

Unfortunately, ignorance is often a successful defense when the perpetrator was sworn in.

Laws targeting and screwing over minorities were on the books a long time also, so duration doesn't have a lot to do with it.

[jpmuscle]

I like how the government gets to decide what arms the citizenry is permitted to resist government tyranny with.

Pretty sure that’s not how things were originally intended ......... shocking


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[FromMyColdDeadHand]

What we need is one of these district courts to take a mag ban and put a nationwide injunction on all Mag bans, just like the lefty courts do when it comes to illegal immigration .

[Hulkstr8]

Everywhere I go there is some dude, "I support the 2nd, but..."