H & K financial troubles continue

[Mjolnir]

Cute.


But I can absolutely hate on them for not packing it in and moving.

HKmasterrace is real but damn if the world doesn’t need cucked up offerings because the Germans are a bunch of self hating losers today.


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You donating funds for the move??


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[jpmuscle]

You donating funds for the move??


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I’d donate with my credit card sure. I’ll standby for my 416 upper invoice.


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[kerplode]

Well that sucks. I love me some HK.

I hope they don't go under, but if they do, I hope they at least get a restock of LEM conversion kits into the US before hand....

[SteyrAUG]

Why do you think Rheinmetall couldn't handle it? Nexter would also be a logical choice, since they own KMW. But yeah, no way a German company, or a company with strong German ties (Nexter) doesn't own HK. If nothing else, no foreign entity would want to deal with the hypocritical bureaucratic nightmare of being an arms manufacturer in Germany.

RM could probably handle HK Germany, not sure they could manage everything else. They don't set up contract factories all over the world, there is no RM USA, etc. I think they have their hands full doing what they do and not getting crushed by the same restrictions HK operates under.

[TMS951]

I wonder if the will be an HK USA, but not HK Germany. It seems doing business in Germany is not worth it.

Kind like SIG USA but with getting Cohened and turned into a turd factory.

[eodinert]

Their pistols prices are very competitive now. Most HK hate because of the civilian market is unfounded. They can't expand their lineup - especially the stuff us civilians want, it's not that they don't want to - they simply can't. The German gov't won't let them.

They sell G36s (HK243) to Canada, but they can't sell them to the US? They can't sell an A3 MR556 in the US, only the A1? Because of what law?

...so you're saying that HK can and do sell the rifles we want all over the world, but they can't do it for us.... Obviously getting the guns out of Germany is no problem, as they sell to Canada. They know how to get the guns into the US, because they sell the MR556 here...but somehow, they can't sell a 243 here...or an MR556A3. How is the 243 legally different than the MR556?

Here is a hint: It's not.

FN seems to pull it off just fine...so we know getting guns in isn't a problem. HK could if they wanted to, but sadly, they don't.

[chadbag]

FN seems to pull it off just fine...so we know getting guns in isn't a problem. HK could if they wanted to, but sadly, they don't.

I wonder if there was some sort of quid pro quo with the prior US administration under the table to not import these things into the US ?

[SteyrAUG]

They sell G36s (HK243) to Canada, but they can't sell them to the US? They can't sell an A3 MR556 in the US, only the A1? Because of what law?

...so you're saying that HK can and do sell the rifles we want all over the world, but they can't do it for us.... Obviously getting the guns out of Germany is no problem, as they sell to Canada. They know how to get the guns into the US, because they sell the MR556 here...but somehow, they can't sell a 243 here...or an MR556A3. How is the 243 legally different than the MR556?

Here is a hint: It's not.

FN seems to pull it off just fine...so we know getting guns in isn't a problem. HK could if they wanted to, but sadly, they don't.

Belgian law is not German law.

[Det-Sog]

Or for them to restructure and sell at more competitive prices and such, and expand the civilian market.

I know they'd have to build it here in the USA, but... If they started making the 91 and MP5 I'd buy one each. I've got the itch. I used the military versions back in my SWAT days and loved them. Life was so much simpler before we had to wear atomic level body armor and .223 became standard issue to meter readers.

[eodinert]

Belgian law is not German law.

Fact.

But Belgian guns and German guns have the same issues to deal with when it comes to getting into the US, and are the answer to the question 'is it possible for Europe to sell the guns we want in the us?'. Yes, it is possible, says Belgium (and Switzerland, and lots of other places).

As to the question about export, we can look to the other guns HK exports to other countries to see what's possible (or even to the US). If they can make a 416 (call it MR556 if you will), and a 417, why not a G36? Call it a 243, call it 'Bob' for all I care. Send a mold to the US for the receiver, and have Wilcox or DD or whoever make a barrel.

Answer: For the MR556, they put in the effort to sell them here (US made bits, required US manufacture, etc). For the other guns, including later generations for the 416, they have chosen not to. Chosen. That's the operative word.