The Arrogance of the Anti-Gunners is Just Infuriating

[just a scout]

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[SteyrAUG]

Was he ever lobbying for the repeal of any anti gun laws?

Did he ever veto any anti gun bills?

What are the penalties for ignoring FOPA other than the machine gun ban segment?

Other than being a NRA life member, I don't think he ever lobbied for restrictions to the 1968 GCA. Of course I don't think any other President has done that either, Reagan is the only one who signed a bill into law that removed some of the worst parts of the GCA.

Don't know what else he might have vetoed.

Why would anyone want to ignore other parts?

FOPA basically allowed collectors to buy, sell and trade personal firearms without being arrested for being an unlicensed dealer. This is why so many people had "kitchen table FFLs" in those day, to protect them from being arrested if they made a favorable trade or sale.

FOPA also ended the logging of all ammunition sales, prior to FOPA sales were logged same as firearms.

FOPA allowed the importation of surplus military firearms. This is why pre68 K98 rifles can sell for $800 to $1000 and recent imports sold for $299. It is also why an SKS isn't one of the rarest firearms in the United States.

There were many other provisions such as transportation protections and things like that.

[CWM11B]

I was in the audience - there were 25 new 2LT's and you should have heard the roar when she call them all Lieutenant Colonels. Only four of that group were being assigned to the New Mexico National Guard. That new 2LT who whispered "Snowflake" to her is being assigned to the 10th Mountain Division as an Infantry Officer. Lujan-Grisham was so stupid it didn't even register in that idiotic head of hers. She's really that dumb. Her whole commencement speech was just a litany of identity politics issues and social justice crap. The leaders of the school seemed uncomfortable with it, the audience was getting a little irate.

Somewhat confused. How is he being assigned to the 10th Mountain? Doesn't he have to finish college first? Or is NMMI no longer a MJC and now a four year institution?

[26 Inf]

I was in the audience - there were 25 new 2LT's and you should have heard the roar when she call them all Lieutenant Colonels. Only four of that group were being assigned to the New Mexico National Guard. That new 2LT who whispered "Snowflake" to her is being assigned to the 10th Mountain Division as an Infantry Officer. Lujan-Grisham was so stupid it didn't even register in that idiotic head of hers. She's really that dumb. Her whole commencement speech was just a litany of identity politics issues and social justice crap. The leaders of the school seemed uncomfortable with it, the audience was getting a little irate.

I guess you missed my point. Aside from the fact that the kid just graduated from what, in reality is a JUCO, he is, as you pointed out, going to an active component assignment in a first tier division. As a serving officer he should act with more decorum.

ETA: None of this means the Governor isn't a tool, just that manners count.

[jsbhike]

Other than being a NRA life member, I don't think he ever lobbied for restrictions to the 1968 GCA. Of course I don't think any other President has done that either, Reagan is the only one who signed a bill into law that removed some of the worst parts of the GCA.

Don't know what else he might have vetoed.

Why would anyone want to ignore other parts?

FOPA basically allowed collectors to buy, sell and trade personal firearms without being arrested for being an unlicensed dealer. This is why so many people had "kitchen table FFLs" in those day, to protect them from being arrested if they made a favorable trade or sale.

FOPA also ended the logging of all ammunition sales, prior to FOPA sales were logged same as firearms.

FOPA allowed the importation of surplus military firearms. This is why pre68 K98 rifles can sell for $800 to $1000 and recent imports sold for $299. It is also why an SKS isn't one of the rarest firearms in the United States.

There were many other provisions such as transportation protections and things like that.

New York, which you mentioned earlier, ignores FOPA.

[OH58D]

Somewhat confused. How is he being assigned to the 10th Mountain? Doesn't he have to finish college first? Or is NMMI no longer a MJC and now a four year institution?

Early Commissioning program, started in the US back @ 1966 for Military Junior Colleges, then opened to 4 Year Universities in 1978 (My program). It was then shut down for 4 Year schools in 1991, but still going for the four remaining MJC's. These cadets did MS3 and MS4 College ROTC in their freshman and sophomore years of college, and spending two summers at Fort Knox. In addition most of these cadets were Simultaneous Membership Program in a local Reserve or Guard unit with an MOS of 09R. Some also went to other schools like Jump and Air Assault. Some of these new 2LTs are also prior enlisted before going to college.

The new 2LT is in non-deploying status while finishing the last two years of college. The new 2LT must attend a university where there is an Army ROTC program and they work with that unit doing duties for the Professor of Military Science. They then attend their local reserve or guard unit, usually in the HHC learning the ropes. The new 2LT gets tuition paid at any school guaranteed for the next 2-3 years and must earn the BA or BS degree. In addition they also get their Guard or Reserve pay plus monthly Basic Housing Allowance and something called the E.B. White Scholarship which pays additional living expenses. At the end of the two years, the 2LT goes thru normal accessions and their final branch is determined. Usually they can get what they've been working in for the past 2-3 years. The 2LT goes to BOLC and by the end of that training is usually in the zone for 1LT.

So, what does Big Green get out of all this money they're paying out? The new 2LT has an 8 year obligation in the Army, and for each year they take the E.B. White living expense scholarship, the Army tacks another year onto the service commitment. The Army doesn't do this for free. This program is similar to what the government does for doctors and paying for their education. These new docs end up working for the Public Health Service or Indian Health Service for several years to pay off their government investment.

Regarding this new 2LT who called the governor a "Snowflake", he has been accepted to Syracuse University and will be with an infantry regiment in the 10th Mountain Division, but I don't know the regimental number. What makes this program harder than a normal 4 year college ROTC program is the cadet is compressing 4 years into 2. These cadets live at a military school with all the rules and lack of freedom. In addition, they are up at 5:30 am and have taps at 22:00 (Lights out). It's a tougher life with no room for error, compared to the civilian lifestyle in college ROTC at a 4 year school. Some have compared it to a 2 year OCS. A lot of these ROTC cadets come out of the program a little tougher than their 4 year school counterparts, with the exception of the Service Academies like West Point, where my son just finished his 2nd years.

[OH58D]

I guess you missed my point. Aside from the fact that the kid just graduated from what, in reality is a JUCO, he is, as you pointed out, going to an active component assignment in a first tier division. As a serving officer he should act with more decorum.

ETA: None of this means the Governor isn't a tool, just that manners count.

I know what you're saying, and I understand. This governor is just hated by so many, including a lot of young people, partially because she's just a total moron. Maybe kind of like the governor played by Mel Brooks in Blazing Saddles. I did have a pic of this incident, but I have blacked out the face of the new 2LT to protect him. He had a big grin on his face, and you can see stupid all over her face:



And our brilliant governor busting down walls, including taking on Trump's wall. She pulled the National Guard from the border here to allow the massive flood of illegals:

[CWM11B]

I'm familiar with the ECP program. I commissioned out of MMI in 1985. I was just curious as to how he got in to an AD unit. I got stuck in the reserve when I finished my BA, got pissed off after a few years and ended up in the USCG for a while. I'd have jumped at the chance to get to an AD unit right out of the MJC

[OH58D]

I'm familiar with the ECP program. I commissioned out of MMI in 1985. I was just curious as to how he got in to an AD unit. I got stuck in the reserve when I finished my BA, got pissed off after a few years and ended up in the USCG for a while. I'd have jumped at the chance to get to an AD unit right out of the MJC

I was in the first group in 1978 of ECP cadets at a 4 year university. Graduated from High School in 1978, went to Basic Camp at Knox same summer (6 weeks) then got to go to Fort Benning for 3 weeks of Jump School. Then started as a Freshman at the U of Arizona, and was enlisted SMP in M.I. doing reserve duty at Fort Huachuca. Went to Advanced Camp at Fort Lewis in 1979 and commissioned in 1980. Remained at the U of Arizona, working at the ROTC dept and still a 2LT Reservist. On my accessions packet my senior year, I put down M.I. as my first choice and Aviation as #2. I branched aviation in 1982, and the rest is history.

Since you're a graduate of Marion Military, you know that all the Military Junior Colleges send some of their grads to Norwich University in Vermont. A large number of those new 2LT's get assigned to the 86th Infantry Brigade Combat Team (Vermont National Guard). The 86th IBCT is part of the 10th Mountain Division and the Vermont unit now wear the 10th Mountain insignia and Mountain Tab.

[SteyrAUG]

New York, which you mentioned earlier, ignores FOPA.

Yes they do, apparently without any oversight. But freedoms and rights are constantly eroded, the 1968 GCA remains one of the single greatest infringements with the "sporter clause" making any firearm qualify to an arbitrary "sporting application" to ATFs satisfaction before it can be imported or domestically manufactured.

And every subsequent gun ban since then including the ban on imported machine guns in 1968 (the one most people know nothing about), the ban on domestic machine guns in 1986, the ban on military style semi autos in 1989 and the clinton domestic ban of 1994 all drew upon the sporter clause as their legal justification. If that could be removed, a firearm would simply be a firearm in most cases.

Most people don't know that Senator John Glenn and LBJ actually gave us our first machine gun ban back in 1968 and that is why nobody actually owns a transferable HK MP5 because it is a foreign made machine gun and all MP5s in private hands began as HK94s and were converted in the US resulting in a domestic manufactured machine gun.

Also ironically all those M-16s, M2 and other US made select fire weapons that were loaned or sold to other countries, if they came back to the US they would NOT be transferable. That is because they are foreign source machine guns even if they were made prior to 1968. There are quite a few M1 Thompsons that returned to the US after the passage of the 1968 GCA and they are not transferable to private individuals.

But Reagan wasn't perfect either, he allowed the Black Panthers motivate him to enact open carry laws rather than just crack down on the BPs when they engaged in armed intimidation. But you'd probably have to go all the way back to Theodore Roosevelt or possibly John Kennedy to find a President who was as fundamentally pro gun as Reagan.