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    PRC here to stay, you got one?

    I am getting the feeling that the somewhat new PRC is here to stay. I watched a Bergara video and they are making 6.5PRC and 300PRC as stock rifles.

    Do you own one ? Are you considering one in the future?

    Edit, Jake does and he is pushing 225 ELD's in the 3K fps, that is a solid bump in performance from WM.

    What is barrel life on these bad boys??

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    300 PRC has been around for probably 10 years now. Dave Tooley / Accuracy International and a select few others have been developing and shooting it for some time. Just until recently has it gained traction with Hornady on board. With select powders and heavier bullets we see this round being 85+ percent of what the Norma can deliver without an XL action is huge . Couple that with being able to swap a barrel off a 300wm and keep the same bolt/mags is a big plus. Pending the COAL limitations of what factory rifles can support and certain chassis' that allow for CIP mags is a factor.

    Right now the thing that holds folks back is the quality of brass. Hornady being the only option and a select few other slated for 2020, seems why some have not jumped ship to the 300prc. At least shooters I talk with.

    For the 6.5 there are already others such as ADG with Brass and this round has been gaining steam. The fast 6.5s seem to do well with fast, high BC, long pills. Seems the market and trend is going this way. Longer COAL and more freebore in barrels to take these pills.. Powders such as RL26 has really stepped up the performance with both the 300 and 6.5 PRC. Gaining 100 fps over what H1000 can do in some cases, it really makes these a force to be reckoned with. But there is a reason we see the PRCs and SAUMs and all these custom actions coming with Mag Bolt faces. Couple that with most manufacturers picking these calibers up in factory offerings, I don't see them going away soon. Super long heavier pills, and high BCs aren't meant for rifles that can't move them. I have a few buddies that jumped the 6.5cm ship to the 6.5 PRC and 6.5 gap 4s (saum) and they wondered why they didn't sooner.

    If your punching paper at 600, you can save the time and effort and not updrade. If your pushing the limits and want all the performance you can get with the new latest and greatest pills, then these are for you. I don't see a reason to not make the switch. On the 6.5 PRC for now and once better brass comes out for the 300 PRC many more are going to follow. I'm disappointed in my Hornady brass for the 300 PRC, but maybe it works better for others. I've had conversations with ADG on the 300 PRC brass going back almost a year now. They have the demand but can not supply for it yet in 2019.


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    I did not even consider in years down the road when I cook off a 300WM barrel, I can move to PRC. The components will be up to snuff etc when I make my move, if I do. Seems very promising.

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    Yep, that's a huge benifit in my eyes. You would need to run 3.775 or 3.850 mags to run factory Hornady ammo though. The 3.715 mags will not take the factory 212s or 225s. I run my 215 Berger's at 3.705 COAL at 20 thou off the land. Thats the longest COAL round I use. The 225s have a shorter COAL. Would have to look up the number in my notes.

    I'm excited to use the new 230 A-Tips and see what those can do. With RL 26 I'm hoping for 3k+. That's one bad machine there if I can get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwknutson17 View Post
    Yep, that's a huge benifit in my eyes. You would need to run 3.775 or 3.850 mags to run factory Hornady ammo though. The 3.715 mags will not take the factory 212s or 225s. I run my 215 Berger's at 3.705 COAL at 20 thou off the land. Thats the longest COAL round I use. The 225s have a shorter COAL. Would have to look up the number in my notes.

    I'm excited to use the new 230 A-Tips and see what those can do. With RL 26 I'm hoping for 3k+. That's one bad machine there if I can get it.
    Copy that, 100% agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwknutson17 View Post
    I'm excited to use the new 230 A-Tips and see what those can do.
    What twist rate are you running?
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    What twist rate are you running?
    9.4 twist on the Cadex and a 10 on the hunting rifle.

    Plug in your info / specs here to play around with it.
    https://bergerbullets.com/twist-rate-calculator/
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    Took the 300 PRC out to 1.5 miles yesterday. While that was just mainly for fun, it did really well going well into transonic. Hits on target looked good. No keyhole type marks of any kind on the plate. 36"x36". Shooting 215 Berger's right at 3k fps about.

    Quick two shots at 100 to confirm zero and nothing new here.
    Skipped the 1k plate and went right to 1500. Hits at 1500 were pretty consistent. Wind was a factor all day. Changing wind by the minute at 45 degree head wind to direct head wind. The lift from the strong headwind changed elevation by a whole mil at times. At a mile we saw some good hits and I would just cap the 215 Berger at a mile for usefulness. Even through we got good hits at 2k and 2560.

    Switched to some factory 225 Hornady to see how it would do and it was fairly consistent. But not like the hand loads. Because these were 180 fps slower then the 215s the dope for the 1500 was the same as the 215s at a mile. Right around 15.5 mils give or take. We were shooting at 3500 elevation yesterday.

    Buddy had his 375 CT with 400gr cutting edge bullets right above 2900 fps and he made short work of the mile, 2k and 1.5 mile plates. He went back to 2 miles and made a hit on his 4th round. Dialing 60.9 mils. Well dialing and using a Charlie Tarac. Crazy!

    All I can say is wind is a bit*h at distance. I was dialing wind at 5.6 mils at 1.5 miles. Then 30 seconds later I would be at 3.2. that's a big difference. The direct head wind would come on and wind was .2. Just insane.

    The 300 PRC is an easy 1 mile round. Easy. At 2000 yards pending your bullet and conditions it's at it's useful limit 1.5 miles is just not the correct tool for the job. Proved that we can get good consistent results. But it's really not what it's meant for. I had to dial 19.7 mils and hold 16 more at 1.5 miles. I had to dial the ZP5 mag back to 8-9x magnification to see down to 20 mils on the reticle and then held the 16. As you can see that just that half mile more, more then doubled the dope. Just using a 20 moa base. No can't in the spuhr. I could have used a 20moa spuhr also and that would give me another 6 mils in the scope and would have to only hold 10.

    Was a fun day. 13 straight hours out there. Shot 120 rounds during the day. Heat was about 100 degrees give or take.
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    Thatís awesome! If my math is right thatís a 228Ē (19 feet!) shift in wind.

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    I got 44' (5.6 mils at 1.5 miles)...

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