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    Thx for all the input--this is what's so great about M4c.

    So I'm thinking about maybe just getting a case of the IMI 77gr. It's not the cheapest by far, but I can handle it and from a couple comments in this thread and what I see elsewhere, it is pretty accurate for the price even compared to BH blue box, and shoots well out of 1:7 barrels.

    Any other 75-77gr I should look at? I see Hornady has a new cheaper line of blasting ammo I've never tried--Frontier. I see mixed reviews about that, looks like the feedback is not as consistently good as the IMI.

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    End of the day it's going to be what your barrel likes. If you have multiple ARs the trick is finding an ammo that all your guns like enough to get the job done.

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    I've shot a lot of Winchester, IMI, PMC, Federal, Remington, and Wolf. I think Wolf Gold is re-branded Taiwan commercial. All seem to be pretty good.

    Independence in the white/blue box was VERY hot and flashy. Fiocchi (GFL and Perfecta head stamp) has meh brass if you're a reloader (the flash holes aren't centered in the pocket -- they're all over. Apparently $hitty enough to be able to write an explosives engineering Master's thesis: THE EFFECTS OF PHYSICAL FLASH HOLE DEVIATIONS ON FACTORY-GRADE RIFLE AMMUNITION ).



    I wouldn't spend the extra money to buy Green Tip ammo unless you're shooting within 200 yards at big targets and just want it to go bang -- and use the brass for hand loading.

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    So here are a few 77gr 'bulk' or economy sub $1 per round factory loads I am checking out, besides the IMI 77gr. Comments welcome from anybody's who's tried them. The only of these I've ever tried was the BH red box, and it was excellent, though not quite as 'economy' as I'm looking for here, to stock up on. ETA, checking my ammo records I guess I did try some of the BH blue box 75gr loads like 8 years ago, was not super impressed with the accuracy for the price, versus other options at the time. Maybe they're better now.

    Magtech 77gr BTHP First Defense 'Sniper' series (.56/rd)
    https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produ...matchking-ammo

    Fiocchi 77gr BTHP (.70/rd)
    https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produ...low-point-ammo

    Hornady Frontier 75gr BTHP (.44/rd)
    https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produ...thp-match-ammo

    Black hills blue box 75gr (.66/rd)
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1339496167?pid=985423

    PMC 77gr SMK OTM (.70/rd)
    https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-5...pmc-ammo-223xm

    And the next bump up in accuracy/price, though still sub 1$:

    Hornady 75gr Match (.87/rd)
    https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produ...atch-bthp-ammo

    BH Red box 75gr (.83/rd)
    https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produ...low-point-ammo
    Last edited by maximus83; 09-12-19 at 17:47. Reason: add more loads

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    Quote Originally Posted by maximus83 View Post
    So here are a few 77gr 'bulk' or economy sub $1 per round factory loads I am checking out, besides the IMI 77gr. Comments welcome from anybody's who's tried them. The only of these I've ever tried was the BH red box, and it was excellent, though not quite as 'economy' as I'm looking for here, to stock up on.

    Magtech 77gr BTHP (.56/rd)
    https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produ...matchking-ammo

    Magtech 77gr SMK (0.68/rd)
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020652937?pid=801254

    Fiocchi 77gr BTHP (.70/rd)
    https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produ...low-point-ammo

    Hornady Frontier 75gr BTHP (.44/rd)
    https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produ...thp-match-ammo


    And the next bump up in accuracy/price, though still sub 1$:

    Hornady 75gr Match (.87/rd)
    https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produ...atch-bthp-ammo

    BH Red box 75gr (.83/rd)
    https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produ...low-point-ammo
    The Hornady Frontier 75gr is a solid 2 moa in all my guns. Can go lower but most of the time it's around 1.7 - 2 moa.

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    My 12.5" Hodge loves this stuff. Steve at Citizen Arms recommended it to me and I have been very impressed. I need to do more testing on all my rifles and find it bulk but it around .8 to 1.5 moa.

    https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-5...pmc-ammo-223xm

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    Quote Originally Posted by themonk View Post
    The Hornady Frontier 75gr is a solid 2 moa in all my guns. Can go lower but most of the time it's around 1.7 - 2 moa.
    Good data point. For blasting ammo in a heavier bullet, that's not half bad. Especially considering that you can get it in large bulk for a per-round price that is WAY lower than most other 75-77gr bulk options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themonk View Post
    My 12.5" Hodge loves this stuff. Steve at Citizen Arms recommended it to me and I have been very impressed. I need to do more testing on all my rifles and find it bulk but it around .8 to 1.5 moa.

    https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-5...pmc-ammo-223xm
    Thx--updated the list in my post above, so it's all in one place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themonk View Post
    My 12.5" Hodge loves this stuff. Steve at Citizen Arms recommended it to me and I have been very impressed. I need to do more testing on all my rifles and find it bulk but it around .8 to 1.5 moa.

    https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-5...pmc-ammo-223xm
    This stuff shoots great but I have found better consistency with the fiocchi 223 77 and 69 grain loads over this.

    ALSO I WOULD NOT USE HORNADY FRONTIER EVER. I bought about 3k of it when it was on sale, 55 otm and 75 otm and I have had nothing but problems with popped primers and even had a squib load. Im not talking 1 popped primer in a day, im talking multiples in a every magazine. I shit canned all of it.

    Also the winchester 62 grain otm from sweeden is really really good shit for .30/round

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furbyballer View Post
    This stuff shoots great but I have found better consistency with the fiocchi 223 77 and 69 grain loads over this.

    ALSO I WOULD NOT USE HORNADY FRONTIER EVER. I bought about 3k of it when it was on sale, 55 otm and 75 otm and I have had nothing but problems with popped primers and even had a squib load. Im not talking 1 popped primer in a day, im talking multiples in a every magazine. I shit canned all of it.

    Also the winchester 62 grain otm from sweeden is really really good shit for .30/round
    What rifle had the popped primers?
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