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    New Serbian infantry rifle

    Wonder if this will actually make it into service?


    "The 6.5×38.7 mm round, developed by Serbia's Prvi Partizan, leverages work on the company's 6.5×39 mm Grendel cartridge, but it has been optimised to be fired from automatic and semi-automatic weapons.

    The 6.5×38.7 mm round is claimed to have better aerodynamic characteristics leading to a slower loss of velocity, flatter trajectory, and more kinetic energy when it hits the target. The round has a range of 800 m, the Serbian Ministry of Defence (MoD) said."


    https://www.janes.com/article/90088/...-assault-rifle
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    Delete.
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    So they changed the 6.5 Grendel just enough to avoid paying any royalties, which “optimizes” the round in semiautomatic and fully automatic firearms because they cost a little bit less to feed. Tongue in cheek, of course.
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    That red dot. Can it get any higher?!?

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    I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that this goes no where and that Forgotten Weapons will have a video on it in five years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainRaven View Post
    I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that this goes no where and that Forgotten Weapons will have a video on it in five years.
    Where would we expect it to go? Serbia has not (nor do they have any aspirations to) joined NATO. So interoperability is not a concern. From a financial standpoint this makes sense for their Military when you consider that A, it just takes adaptation of their current Serbian made AKMs to the new cartridge and B, Prvi Partizan will be the producing the ammunition as the large Serbian manufacturer they are. Whether they can land 6.5mm pills out to 800m as effective suppressive fire is an entirely different matter.

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    I'm not sure this is meant for civilian sales. Maybe other militaries....but probably not. Good, bad or indifferent it's just a country updating their military rifles

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    Note that "the base for the modular M17 modular AR is the Zastava M05 in the calibre 7.62×39 mm, the system of the Kalashnikov, which is the standard calibre of the Serbian Army and many other countries" and "the barrel can be replaced in less than 60 seconds by a new barrel which fires 6.5×38.7 mm rounds..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshNC View Post
    So they changed the 6.5 Grendel just enough to avoid paying any royalties, which “optimizes” the round in semiautomatic and fully automatic firearms because they cost a little bit less to feed. Tongue in cheek, of course.
    There is no such thing as Grendel royalties. Even in early days when the Grendel name was trademarked all they would have had to do was call it something other than grendel.

    This rifle is not new news, and by all earlier accounts shoots grendel. Which has a case length of 38.7mm. (Same as this article)

    Grendle AKs and full auto usage was an objective of Bill Alexander from very early on. It influenced some of the compromises in the cartridge.

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