HK SP5K / MP5s

[Firefly]

Dont waste your time on MP5s. they suck.

not a troll. not a joke. Not irony.

They were relevant in from the 60s tp the 80s but nos they simply are not worth the time, money, money, MONEY, and stress for a delayed blowback pistol caliber. They make respectable 9mm ARs that do well in PCC matches.

[jpmuscle]

Dont waste your time on MP5s. they suck.

not a troll. not a joke. Not irony.

They were relevant in from the 60s tp the 80s but nos they simply are not worth the time, money, money, MONEY, and stress for a delayed blowback pistol caliber. They make respectable 9mm ARs that do well in PCC matches.

This all day



Considering the B&T offerings MP5s are relics. Cool relics but relics nonetheless


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[The Rat]

Dont waste your time on MP5s. they suck.

not a troll. not a joke. Not irony.

They were relevant in from the 60s tp the 80s but nos they simply are not worth the time, money, money, MONEY, and stress for a delayed blowback pistol caliber. They make respectable 9mm ARs that do well in PCC matches.

As a Z5P owner I agree with this. The part that annoys me the most is the lack of bolt hold open on empty. I can reload my damn AUG faster than I can reload this thing.

If it weren't for the mag ban here in CO I'd have gone with something more modern like the Scorpion and paid half the overall money.

[Chase45]

I disagree with the last few posts. Its by far the best subgun type Ive shot. It just shoots better and works all the time. Ive got a K, full size and a SD. They all run and run and run and easy to use out past 100 yards. I feel the bolt hold open complaint is a lame one. You should know when its getting close to empty. Its not hard to change a mag instead of waiting for the gun to tell you its dry.

The Scorpion does shoot pretty well for the price, but it just feels cheap. The MPXs Ive used had spotty reliability and component breakage with prolonged use. The B&T offerings I haven't had the pleasure, Im sure they are great. But in the end its still not a MP5, and Id be skeptical if any of the other platforms sound as good as a MP5 suppressed

[eodinert]

While I do agree that the platform is dated, an AR in 9mm shoots like crap compared to an MP5. You're trading last round hold open for shooting impulse.

AR9s shoot like shit.

[Chase45]

While I do agree that the platform is dated, an AR in 9mm shoots like crap compared to an MP5. You're trading last round hold open for shooting impulse.

AR9s shoot like shit.

The recoil is very disproportionate for a 9mm on the AR9s Ive shot. Seemed to recoil as much as 5.56mm guns, if not more...

[SteyrAUG]

While I do agree that the platform is dated, an AR in 9mm shoots like crap compared to an MP5. You're trading last round hold open for shooting impulse.

AR9s shoot like shit.

While I don't feel 9mm AR recoil is anything dramatic, it is more substantial. But for me the big difference is magazines (uzi mags suck compared to MP5 mags). Also there seems to be more suppressor options for the MP5 platform vs. the 9mm AR.

All that said, I still want a DOE type.

[Pappabear]

The real problem with the SP5K is that when you do it right, as you noted you will have an heirloom quality gun. But you've spent close to $4,000, which is way too much money for someone new to a platform.

So its $4k vs $2k to get the HK where you want it. It also goes back to what your are going to use it for. Mine is a cool as fck range SBR toy. My goto is a 10.3 suppressed Colt. Fit and finish dont concern me on this weapon. My buddy that has the HK with the "real navy barrel? Try lug this and that, spent a fortune making his exactly like whatever people like that want it to be - perfect for them. And that is cool too, OP pull the trigger on one of them because everybody oughta have one. Keep us posted.

I think Zenith fixed many of there early problems.

PB

[Pappabear]

For those who know much more than myself, what is a "Timed 3 lug adapter". Gotta picture? I'd like to know if mine is timed correctly.

My buddy also said that HK is rumored to be coming out with a non nuetered MP5 with try lug and paddle in the future. RUMORED!

PB

[Chase45]

For those who know much more than myself, what is a "Timed 3 lug adapter". Gotta picture? I'd like to know if mine is timed correctly.

My buddy also said that HK is rumored to be coming out with a non nuetered MP5 with try lug and paddle in the future. RUMORED!

PB

It's just where the 3 lug line up at 12, 4 and 6 o'clock. Its aesthetical more than anything