Are HK's? (94, G3, etc.)
The Beretta ARX100 has a drop-safe mechanism but I dont know if it protects against all types of impact / drop.
Same goes for the Beretta Cx4.
I don't think AR's or AK's are "drop safe".
Any other info?
Are HK's? (94, G3, etc.)
The Beretta ARX100 has a drop-safe mechanism but I dont know if it protects against all types of impact / drop.
Same goes for the Beretta Cx4.
I don't think AR's or AK's are "drop safe".
Any other info?
Last edited by Ron3; 07-10-19 at 11:14.
This reminds me of a statement by Jeff Cooper many moons ago. My S&W 1006 came with the factory straight backstrap, that was shown - if dropped at JUST the right angle - to occasionally discharge if impacting a hard surface.
To which LTC Cooper wrote in his Gun & Ammo column - "Don't go around dropping $750 handguns on the deck!"
S&W sent me a curved backstrap replacement, which I didn't like and didn't fit my hand. I kept the straight backstrap, and just never dropped the gun in 12 years of daily carry!
And as regards a rifle, a good sling, should prevent any 'drop-sies' while deploying it
- Either you're part of the problem or you're part of the solution or you're just part of the landscape - Sam (Robert DeNiro) in, "Ronin" -
The 320 met all the industry norms for “drop safe,” before the internet melted. After the one specific issue was found, they fixed that too. The pistol now exceeds all the standards it can be measured against, save emotions on the internet.
I’m sure HK appreciates the internet finding a new whipping boy. I am always curious as to how many Sig and HK haters have actually owned any of those products or interacted with those companies. I own less than some, but more Sigs and HKs than most people. The products have been solid and customer service has been fine too. Maybe if they gave people a crappy hat, some condiments, and other assorted BS they would have more forum support. I’ve been happy with the guns and haven’t needed more.
As to the OP, there’s always going to be some dolt to prove you wrong, but most guns will survive a fall off the table.
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If you're defining, "drop safe," as possessing a firing pin safety: The HK416 and HK417 have firing pin safeties.
Most other rifles have floating firing pins or spring-loaded firing pins and rely on mil-spec hard primers to prevent the rifle from going, "boom," when it is not desired.
SiG also insisted that it didn't have a problem, until video evidence was posted that the problem existed. And they immediately had a fix for it, which suggests that either SiG knew about the problem and lied about it, or they have hyper-competent engineers capable of nearly instantly developing fixes for hitherto totally unknown issues (why those engineers couldn't design a gun without the problem in the first place with such hyper competence is unknown to me).
" Nil desperandum - Never Despair. That is a motto for you and me. All are not dead; and where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it. "
- Samuel Adams -
You sound like a sig fanboy which is ok. I've owned multiple sigs- sold them all. Dont get me started on 365. Only one I regret not keeping is my p220 combat. Sig used to be top tier. I currently own multiple HKs and love them all.. Still a Glock guy at heart.
Sig knew of the issue and was confronted with it on multiple accounts by high profile people in the firearms industry. They are trying to make new innovation and fast to keep up in the market but to to what expense? They discretely were making a fix until video evidence appeared and forced them to publicly address the issue. There is ongoing complaints about Sig and their QC, this is not tinfoil hat conspiracy but fact in the industry.
I do understand why Sig guys get upset when their product line is deteriorating before their own eyes. They were once one of the best.
I'm not saying Sig is an inferior product. Their lineup is above most, have great customer service and will fix issues. I'm happy they are still innovating in the market. Their suppressor program are considered IMO their best attribute this far. Once Kevin Brittingham*who founded AAC joined their program, it's been their biggest positive.
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Last edited by Pappabear; 07-11-19 at 13:23.
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