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    Why Running (Still) Sucks...

    Thirty plus years or so, I have been saying that running is the most overrated form of exercise on the planet, while resistance training (RT), the most underrated. At that time, there was little data to support that position and only dumb muscle heads lifted weights and those truly interested in staying fit, losing weight, and having a healthy cardiovascular system, to add to their sense of superiority, did aerobics, usually in the form of running. The “enlightened” folks ran, the “knuckle draggers” lifted weights, and so it went for a long time. Even to this day, there’s plenty of people out there who think that, and they’re still wrong.



    By running, I mean jogging, or what would be a moderate to low steady state type of running. That’s what I mean by running in this context. Other forms of running, such as sprint intervals and such, can be highly beneficial. My plan in this article is to lay out in broad strokes, with links to articles and studies, people can read up on that covers some of the claims and issues around running. The obvious comparison here is RT vs running, but while RT is superior to running for most effects some attribute to running as well as its own benefit, it’s not black and white at all. For example, there’s other modalities people can choose to get similar benefits seen with running in far less time, or less impact on joints*, or more beneficial movement patterns, etc., such as High Intensity Interval Training and such. So, it’s not like doing conditioning oriented work is to be avoided per se, it’s just that running has demonstrated itself to be sub par in most respects. The end of the day, much of it simply comes down to intensity, and most joggers/runners plod along and a lowish intensity for longer durations of time, whereas sprinting, various forms of HIIT/SIT, RT, etc, will be more effective all around for improving body composition (i.e., reduced bodyfat levels and or increased fat free mass) then running, as well as the benefits people associate with running, such as cardiovascular health and cardiorespiratory capacity. As most know by now (hopefully!) the entire concept of “burning more far for fuel with low intensity exercise” to supposedly lose greater amounts of weight as the loss model was debunked a long time ago. You know, the 80’s called and wants it BS aerobics for weight loss claims back. Sorry 80’s, it’s dead and gone for all but the most clueless left clinging to that nonsense. If one wants to lose that belly fat, high intensity excise is what they want.


    Personally, I think running – in the form of jogging – simply sucks for most things, and I’m not alone that assessment by many a qualified coach, but more on that later…


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    Interesting. I used to run 65-75 miles a week in college, and this included high intensity interval training, tempo runs, and of coarse, the races themselves.

    I’m 39 now and since then, I still run as my only form of exercise, but far fewer miles (like 15-20 miles a week at a snails pace) and no intensity at all. No resistance training either. I can’t get rid of my gut- I used to compete at a trim 143lbs and now I’m at 180lbs. I figured I just needed to up the mileage and or increase intensity. My anecdotal evidence would support your findings.

    Probably not going to give up daily runs, as I enjoy running, but this really validates my hunch that if I want to see better results, I need to add more intensity and perhaps start going to the gym.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold/Bore View Post
    Interesting. I used to run 65-75 miles a week in college, and this included high intensity interval training, tempo runs, and of coarse, the races themselves.

    I’m 39 now and since then, I still run as my only form of exercise, but far fewer miles (like 15-20 miles a week at a snails pace) and no intensity at all. No resistance training either. I can’t get rid of my gut- I used to compete at a trim 143lbs and now I’m at 180lbs. I figured I just needed to up the mileage and or increase intensity. My anecdotal evidence would support your findings.

    Probably not going to give up daily runs, as I enjoy running, but this really validates my hunch that if I want to see better results, I need to add more intensity and perhaps start going to the gym.
    I gave specific advice for people such as yourself also which should help.
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    I've always held to the philosophy that walking (and its extension, hiking) is king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Safari View Post
    I've always held to the philosophy that walking (and its extension, hiking) is king.
    For what? Covering long distance on foot with no time constraints? Sure. For burning fat or increasing overall fitness and strength? No.

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    Why Running (Still) Sucks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Safari View Post
    I've always held to the philosophy that walking (and its extension, hiking) is king.
    King of what? From a purely time perspective, you have to be walking/hiking for a very long time to match some of the effects of shorter HIIT workouts. And that’s a dramatic over simplification. Hiking won’t do shit for a lot of muscle groups.


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    I think walking is the best balance between benefits and risk of injury. Of course, there are always advantages and disadvantages of both. Do what you want and rock on.

    Mainly this is why I walk:

    https://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-w...r-than-running

    “Equivalent energy expenditures by moderate walking and vigorous running exercise produced similar risk reductions for hypertension, hypercholesterolemia, diabetes mellitus, and possibly CHD.”

    In other words, at least according to the study, walking was just as effective as running in relieving stress, high cholesterol and heart disease and diabetes. And while several studies show that the brisker the walk, the better the health benefits, other studies laud the gentle advantages of a slower pace.

    Beyond the parallel perks, are there times when is walking better than running?

    Yes, but let us explain:

    1. Running can stress the immune system. Walking, unlike running, especially long-distance running, does not seem to tax your immune system. Long-distance runners are more susceptible to developing infections, Dr. Uwe Schutz, from University Hospital of Ulm, Germany, told Reuters Health. Training for or running a marathon not only burns fat but also muscle tissue as well. This places undue burdens on the body’s immune system.

    2. Running can damage your heart. In the journal Circulation, researchers performed echocardiographic measurements of cardiac function in 60 recreational runners before and 20 minutes after the 2004 and 2005 Boston Marathon. What they found was that before the race, none of the runners had elevated serum markers for cardiac stress. After the race, 36 runners, or 60 percent, had elevated markers of a certain triplet of proteins called troponin. Troponin is a major component of cardiac muscle but elevated levels of subtypes of these proteins can lead to cardiovascular damage.

    If that’s not enough to discourage a long-distance run, consider that the researchers also discovered that 24 runners (40 percent) developed signs of myocardial necrosis, irreversible damage to heart muscle cells. The researchers also discovered at least 10 studies from 2004 to 2006 alone that documented increases in myocardial damage; there is no evidence that brisk walking can destroy heart muscle or cells.

    3. Running may cause osteoarthritis. The study of risk versus reward when it comes to exercise is ongoing. In terms of the effects that exercising has on our knees, hips and other joints, the verdict is still undecided. It seems that at a certain “dose,” as researchers put it in a study published in the Journal of the American Osteopathic Association, running does not cause osteoarthritis, but after a certain point, reduced risk of disease is offset by an increased risk of injury and osteoarthritis. If you’ve been running for a long time and have had injuries — and most runners have — then you’re more likely to “to deplete the joint of the lubricating glycoproteins, disrupt the collagen network, slowly wear away the cartilage, and cause numerous microfractures in the underlying bones.”

    4. Running can also damage cartilage. Although authors of a study published in the American Journal of Sports Medicine state that there is continuing controversy as to whether long-distance running results in irreversible articular cartilage damage, this specific study concluded that through the use of magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), biochemical changes in articular cartilage remained elevated after three months of reduced activity. The patellofemoral joint and medial compartment of the knee showed the greatest wear and tear, suggesting higher risk for degeneration.

    5. Running in hot weather can lead to heat stroke. In the summer, runners need to be careful not to overdo it. Running in hot weather can lead to multi-organ dysfunction. Although walking in hot weather can also lead to heat stroke, there is probably less chance of developing organ failure when walking versus running.

    https://www.verywellfit.com/how-walk...unning-3432517

    https://www.vox.com/2015/8/4/9091093...-running?__c=1

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    From my 20's to age 54 I ran on average 12 to 15 mile a week. At 54 I had to have a triple bypass, at age 70 I had to have cardio ablation for SVT, afib and atrial flutter. Now my cardio consists pushing the lawn mower once a week and 10 minutes on an elliptical to warmup and 1.5 hours of lifting twice a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Safari View Post
    I think walking is the best balance between benefits and risk of injury. Of course, there are always advantages and disadvantages of both. Do what you want and rock on.

    Mainly this is why I walk:

    https://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-w...r-than-running

    https://www.verywellfit.com/how-walk...unning-3432517

    https://www.vox.com/2015/8/4/9091093...-running?__c=1
    Some good intel in those links. Risk to benefit compared to other options, running sucks. However, I did offer best practices for improving benefits for those who enjoy running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P2Vaircrewman View Post
    From my 20's to age 54 I ran on average 12 to 15 mile a week. At 54 I had to have a triple bypass, at age 70 I had to have cardio ablation for SVT, afib and atrial flutter. Now my cardio consists pushing the lawn mower once a week and 10 minutes on an elliptical to warmup and 1.5 hours of lifting twice a week.
    If you're medically cleared for such things, a few sessions per week of HIIT or SIT would likely be of considerable benefits.
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