Originally Posted by
tb-av
All you can do is what you are doing. If GB does not jump on that with both feet then I would suspect they are in on it. Which I doubt, but who knows these days.
If I'm reading you correctly. Let's say you and I are friends. You offer up a gun. 3rd party has a low bid that looks like it might win. I, out of nowhere, bid it up so you don't loose your money. Now if someone overbids me, that's life in the big city. If I win though, to protect you, and everything simply disappears to start over next week... that's fraud. I can't believe for a second GB would be cool with that as it would place them as a party to the whole deal.
I buy a lot of stuff online and I will not tolerate that. You are hard pressed to screw something up on eBay these days. Almost everyone has you covered. For GB to be running a 1940's sideshow at the traveling fair is beyond acceptable.
Now if you are simply upset because you thought you were going to get a free lunch on the Internet, and then went ahead and bid more money. That's pretty much all you. It may still be a crooked situation but you didn't have to keep adding money to the pot. It's gambling at that point. You didn't know it was a gambling site... but.....
I agree with you though. I take online transaction very seriously. I have a great expectation of honesty and I go out of my way to describe anything I am selling and that no bullshit occurs in between.
If you are dead certain this is happening I would tell GB that if they don't get on the ball then perhaps the FBI will. That's their bailiwicks, respectively.
If it's some dips**t running around bidding up and buying when they win. That's life. That's not how I'm reading you though. What you describe is an organize anonymous protection of the supposed auction. Screw that.
This is a prime example of 'our side' not communicating. If we can't have the modicum of trust among us to say that 'tent show' fraud is wrong, then were are we? If I walk into your sideshow and you fool me. That's on me. We have no way to know how many people get screwed everyday on the Internet or if the sellers are in the forums, which they probably are.
It's a pet peeve for me but I have bought and sold internationally ( not guns ) and the community and integrity must be honest among the buyers and sellers. It really speaks to me when a person's integrity is clear and they make it so regardless of their proximity.
Maybe you can check Whois to see if ShiilDealer.com is available.
I don't have a lot of rules but when it comes to spending money I don't expect that online buying is the same as sitting down at the poker table. Is that rain? Oh, no it's just another BS Internet gun dealer pissing down my back. Take them down. FBI, BBB, ATF, Local PD, they deserve no respectful treatment.
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