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    Quote Originally Posted by flenna View Post
    With these anti-Semitic communists taking over the Democratic Party the only way I see President Trump losing in 2020 is through voter fraud and lawsuits.

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    Hopefully. I do worry that the media has been successful in convincing a good faction of the voters that Trump is literally the worst person to walk the earth, and even Hitler, Genghis Khan, or Caligula would be a better choice than him. I don't think he'd win PA again, but if he has Ohio and Florida, he should be okay.
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    I think he's doing a hell of a job making Pelosi own this group of radicals.
    She's afraid to speak it against them and that's pushing the reality that they are all radical Marxists, even the so called moderates like Joe Biden.
    Calling out both Pelosi and Biden as racist opened the door for this opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    Was it though? He's keeping the focus on the most radical and boisterous element of the Democratic party. The ones who espouse communist views, want open borders and hate law enforcement. The ones who want to steal money from people who aren't like them, to give to people who are. The longer he controls the identity of the Democratic party by highlighting these radical leftists, the more centrists he's going to turn against them.

    No one cares what the histrionic diehards have to say, they've already cast their votes. It's the undecided he has to turn against them, and he is. He also has to keep the fire lit under his diehard fans. I'd personally rather have him take a "hide and watch" approach, but that's not his style. He's doing the only thing he knows how to do. Time will tell if that's enough.
    I get that, and I agree to an extent, but he was the first to push the boat into uncharted waters and I'm worried that there is a limit with certain voters he needs to retain AND get out to vote. I have no particular love for DJT, but the alternative is terrifying. Appealing to the base and making the dems own the radical positions of many of their ranks is one thing, but I have a hard time seeing any upside to his tweets about the four. He should be owning them on policy, especially immigration, and he's not. Sometimes ad hominem attacks work for him, but this was not the time. The optics of the rally in NC only magnify it.

    He needs to pivot soon into a semblance of a normal presidential figure like he did in the campaign. It's unlikely that whomever the (D)'s choose will have the unfavorables of HRC that balanced his out, which I don't think you can discount for his victory in '16. No one cared that he was insulting HRC because a majority of people couldn't stand her - he's not likely to have the same advantage this time. 50,000 votes over 3 states is about as narrow as you can possibly get.

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    Hopefully. I do worry that the media has been successful in convincing a good faction of the voters that Trump is literally the worst person to walk the earth, and even Hitler, Genghis Khan, or Caligula would be a better choice than him. I don't think he'd win PA again, but if he has Ohio and Florida, he should be okay.
    The thing is, he HAS to win Florida and Ohio just to get an electoral map that's plausible. Then he HAS to win PA or MI and WI, or WI and flip a handful of states. I think his path is narrower this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance435 View Post
    I get that, and I agree to an extent, but he was the first to push the boat into uncharted waters and I'm worried that there is a limit with certain voters he needs to retain AND get out to vote. I have no particular love for DJT, but the alternative is terrifying. Appealing to the base and making the dems own the radical positions of many of their ranks is one thing, but I have a hard time seeing any upside to his tweets about the four. He should be owning them on policy, especially immigration, and he's not. Sometimes ad hominem attacks work for him, but this was not the time. The optics of the rally in NC only magnify it.

    He needs to pivot soon into a semblance of a normal presidential figure like he did in the campaign. It's unlikely that whomever the (D)'s choose will have the unfavorables of HRC that balanced his out, which I don't think you can discount for his victory in '16. No one cared that he was insulting HRC because a majority of people couldn't stand her - he's not likely to have the same advantage this time. 50,000 votes over 3 states is about as narrow as you can possibly get.

    The thing is, he HAS to win Florida and Ohio just to get an electoral map that's plausible. Then he HAS to win PA or MI and WI, or WI and flip a handful of states. I think his path is narrower this time.
    Agreed. His math was superior to Hillary's in 2016. Let's hope he didn't forget his own lesson.
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    [QUOTE=sundance435;2752617]I get that, and I agree to an extent, but he was the first to push the boat into uncharted waters and I'm worried that there is a limit with certain voters he needs to retain AND get out to vote. I have no particular love for DJT, but the alternative is terrifying. Appealing to the base and making the dems own the radical positions of many of their ranks is one thing, but I have a hard time seeing any upside to his tweets about the four. He should be owning them on policy, especially immigration, and he's not. Sometimes ad hominem attacks work for him, but this was not the time. The optics of the rally in NC only magnify it.

    He needs to pivot soon into a semblance of a normal presidential figure like he did in the campaign. It's unlikely that whomever the (D)'s choose will have the unfavorables of HRC that balanced his out, which I don't think you can discount for his victory in '16. No one cared that he was insulting HRC because a majority of people couldn't stand her - he's not likely to have the same advantage this time. 50,000 votes over 3 states is about as narrow as you can possibly get.



    The thing is, he HAS to win Florida and Ohio just to get an electoral map that's plausible. Then he HAS to win PA or MI and WI, or WI and flip a handful of states. I think his path is narrower this time.

    You say this not knowing whom the Dems are going to choose as their one trick pony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duece71 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sundance435 View Post
    I get that, and I agree to an extent, but he was the first to push the boat into uncharted waters and I'm worried that there is a limit with certain voters he needs to retain AND get out to vote. I have no particular love for DJT, but the alternative is terrifying. Appealing to the base and making the dems own the radical positions of many of their ranks is one thing, but I have a hard time seeing any upside to his tweets about the four. He should be owning them on policy, especially immigration, and he's not. Sometimes ad hominem attacks work for him, but this was not the time. The optics of the rally in NC only magnify it.

    He needs to pivot soon into a semblance of a normal presidential figure like he did in the campaign. It's unlikely that whomever the (D)'s choose will have the unfavorables of HRC that balanced his out, which I don't think you can discount for his victory in '16. No one cared that he was insulting HRC because a majority of people couldn't stand her - he's not likely to have the same advantage this time. 50,000 votes over 3 states is about as narrow as you can possibly get.



    The thing is, he HAS to win Florida and Ohio just to get an electoral map that's plausible. Then he HAS to win PA or MI and WI, or WI and flip a handful of states. I think his path is narrower this time.
    You say this not knowing whom the Dems are going to choose as their one trick pony.
    That's part of why the game has to be rip the Demofascists' masks off by tying All Out Crazy and her Seditionist Squad like a millstone around their necks, making the F*cked-Up Four the public face of the party and gaslighting them til they take it up to eleven and beyond. Set those four Human Dumpster Fires and the rest of their ilk alight, keep pouring on the gasoline and use their own words against them to scare the Normals: "Do you like what you see? If not, vote Republican--a vote for ANY Dem is a vote for more of this."
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    Hopefully. I do worry that the media has been successful in convincing a good faction of the voters that Trump is literally the worst person to walk the earth, and even Hitler, Genghis Khan, or Caligula would be a better choice than him. I don't think he'd win PA again, but if he has Ohio and Florida, he should be okay.
    Like people thought he was a saint last time? And the dems have turned the kookie-krazy to 11 this time. The left/MSM has been saying that Trump will be the end of the world for 5 years now, and here we all are. Somehow alive.
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    Let's hope that the average ignoramus college leftist stays home and doesn't vote in 2020.

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    While Trumps offence is as impeachable as anything else, this is really a giant waste of time and resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidbattlecry View Post
    While Trumps offence is as impeachable as anything else, this is really a giant waste of time and resources.
    Agreed and more importantly......Tax Payer Money! Between this, the Mueller debacle and many others, the American tax payer is owed a tidy sum. I won’t hold my breath.......

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