New 4 yr study on MRDS vs iron signs on pistols

[FlyingHunter]

I've been rocking MRDS for longer than this new 4 year study with the same results.

https://lockedback.com/results-4-yea...sage-dynamics/

[ndmiller]

Good information and agree based on personal experience, BUT in 4 years they only surveyed 110 people and less than 50 actually shot in their scenarios. In the red dot versus iron pictured summary, 24 people shot the course of fire totaling 262 rounds.

I would have thought 4 years would have brought thousands of shooters and tens of thousands of rounds

On the durability side of red dots well over 10K rounds were fired, but I would have thought it would have ben 50-100K rounds in four years.

I guess my point is such a small sampling wouldn't provide enough data that any law enforcement jurisdiction would change over to red dots, seemingly the premise for the entire study. They easily could have had 1000X the sampling just posting on these forums for volunteers.

[Ron3]

Interesting and something to consider. But as in anything else also consider the agenda / motivation of the source.

[dwhitehorne]

Interesting read. As I expected the author points out the exact same findings we have seen with red dots on rifles for 20 years. Competition pistol shooters have been taking advantage of red dots for years. Now that technology is catching up we are seeing many more practical pistol options. David

[Arik]

Interesting and something to consider. But as in anything else also consider the agenda / motivation of the source.

What agenda?

[maximus83]

Similar study, different conclusions.

https://gundigest.com/reviews/optics...green-dot-iron

[CoryCop25]

Similar study, different conclusions.

https://gundigest.com/reviews/optics...green-dot-iron

This appears to be the more realistic result.
I had a long discussion with Mr. Hackathorn about red dot optics and duty use and his take is very similar to this study.
One thing I added to the con list for handgun red dots was re-qualification after battery replacement on optics that require removal from the handgun for battery access.

[The Dumb Gun Collector]

Agreed, the fact that irons are better at 5-10 yards for most people is a pretty big deal. Long range shot improvements are a poor trade off for reduced performance at the ranges people actually employ handguns.

[ST911]

Agreed, the fact that irons are better at 5-10 yards for most people is a pretty big deal. Long range shot improvements are a poor trade off for reduced performance at the ranges people actually employ handguns.

Makes the juice:squeeze much tougher.

[Zirk208]

Aaron Cowan's paper has been updated to a 2019 second edition.

https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/7dc12...079552b640.pdf

If you watch his videos. his research and documentation of red dots on duty firearms has been a long ongoing process.