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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Then I'd advise you not to give nutritional advice if it's clearly not your lane.
    You have not yet been able to tell me what a keto diet is, it looks like both of us don't have a clue.




    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Because you ingested calories below your required maintenance for a long enough period of time to lose wight, for the same reason others lose wight on which ever diet they follow.

    Cuz calories.
    I started losing weight immediately, there was no long period of waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Boon View Post
    Keeping my weight the same will be easy, if it starts to go up I can just go back into potatoes heavily again and lose weight in an instant.
    The experiences of millions of people who lose weight, shows that's not the case. If that's how to works out for you, great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Boon View Post
    You have not yet been able to tell me what a keto diet is, it looks like both of us don't have a clue.
    LOL, ok sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    LOL, ok sport.
    I'm still waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    The experiences of millions of people who lose weight, shows that's not the case. If that's how to works out for you, great.
    looks like millions of people are highly successful in losing weight on a high carb diet, I'm far from alone.
    Last edited by Mick Boon; 08-31-19 at 19:42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    getting the weight off is not the hard part, keeping off is the hard part
    No kidding there. Two-day break put five pounds back on.

    Lessons Learned for my own application:
    1. Space "break days" with at least two "good" days in between.
    2. Carbs no later than lunchtime.

    Generally I can get away with being a little sloppy, as long as it's one meal a day--I can do a burger or pasta at lunch as long as I follow it with a Cobb/chef/similar salad or a keto-shake and meat/cheese snack-pack for dinner, and can usually slip by a small handful of M&M's or similar on my way to the john in the morning. (Pattern seems to be the earlier it is in the day the more I can get away with, I can do a little sugar as a "booster" to get me going as long as it's followed with a protein/fat "sustainer" to *keep* me going through the sugar crash.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    No kidding there. Two-day break put five pounds back on.
    Five pounds in two days ! How is that even possible ?

    Looks to me like you need to stay on a healthy diet all the time.

    As for me I will never eat cheese or a burger again.

    PS I LOVE bacon, I've been eating back bacon raw, the taste is far superior to any cooked bacon.
    Last edited by Mick Boon; 08-31-19 at 20:20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Boon View Post
    PS. If a high carb diet is nothing like keto how come I lost weight easily ?

    Calorie deficit, eating only potatoes is a horrible idea from a nutritional standpoint. You would have to eat 14 large potatoes a day just to get the minimum required protein for a sedentary average size man. You could have done the same thing buy only eating asperagus or beats or twinkies for that matter as long as you stayed at a calorie deficit. It doesn't mean it's healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Robison View Post
    Calorie deficit, eating only potatoes is a horrible idea from a nutritional standpoint. You would have to eat 14 large potatoes a day just to get the minimum required protein for a sedentary average size man. You could have done the same thing buy only eating asperagus or beats or twinkies for that matter as long as you stayed at a calorie deficit. It doesn't mean it's healthy.
    I full agree that eating potatoes alone is a bad idea from a nutritional standpoint. The nice thing about them is that they are much more filling than asparagus or twinkies and it's hard work to eat a lot of them, which cut's down on the calories big time. I wanted to lose weight without feeling hungry, potatoes did that for me.

    My reasoning is that I don't need any extra nutrition when I want to lose weight, the fat I am burning is natures store of nutrition designed to be used up in hard times... I think nature has provided all the nutrients I needed. indeed I have only felt better and fitter as I progressed.... Happier too if you can understand that.

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    Been eating "Keto-ish" for about two years now. Never felt better: fat % around 12; great workouts; lots of energy; great sleep. I say "Keto-ish" as I don't think I am in 'strict' ketosis (probably minimal to medium ketones) as I cheat on occasion with a couple potato chips, a spoonful of ice-cream, etc. I don't eat pasta, flour, taters, etc.

    The more research I do, the more it looks like insulin is the culprit for weight gain, metabolic syndrome, etc. Insulin is apparently being targeted by more and more physicians as they study the interaction on calories, the endocrine system, exercise, etc.

    I'm glad no one mentioned the "calories in v. calories out" canard....that was disproved back in the 1920's. A great book to read up on the issue of that myth is THE CASE AGAINST SUGAR, by Gary Taube (?). I just finished it and he slays a lot of dragons in there.

    Will, that may be a good book for you as he does a great job at listing the various studies from which he draws his theories. There's a LOT in there ti unpack.

    But, in the end, I think you summed it up best by saying whatever works for you......

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