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    Nobody else has seen this with the ACR?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBzOAVCfit8

    The SCAR suffers from the same problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    Nobody else has seen this with the ACR?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBzOAVCfit8

    The SCAR suffers from the same problem.

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    Pretty sure it’s on the 16/L models and not the 17/H.

    Quote Originally Posted by NickB View Post
    Everything about the ACR barrel assembly is custom, so nothing was "laying around", it was all intentional. You should have felt the anger in the room during our pre-SHOT 2009 Bushmaster/Magpul meeting when the Magpul team learned the specs of the gun. We were PISSED. Example of one exchange I remember:

    Magpul: "Why did you specify 1:9 twist?"
    Bushmaster: "That's our best selling twist rate."
    Magpul: "That's your ONLY twist rate!"
    I seriously laughed at that. I can totally see that convo happening in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChunkNorris View Post
    Pretty sure it’s on the 16/L models and not the 17/H.
    Interesting, I have about 3K through my 16 and never once seen that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickB View Post
    To be fair, if the gun hadn't been licensed to someone, it would have never been made. The Masada was badass, but was nowhere near ready for production. Remington had to essentially reengineer much of the platform to make it reliable and manufacturable.
    That is a shame. I would have paid some serious nickels back in the day, for a Masada made by you gents in Colorado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RHINOWSO View Post
    Interesting, I have about 3K through my 16 and never once seen that.
    You probably don’t purposely try to make your 16 malfunction either, most normal people don’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousStudent View Post
    That is a shame. I would have paid some serious nickels back in the day, for a Masada made by you gents in Colorado.
    Yeah, I really wanted it to be a thing. Even the SCAR seems to have failed to live up to the promise of what it could be and that's with FN making it.

    I have to keep reminding myself that everything is still a FNC or a AR18 in a fancy new plastic shell. I won't be abandoning the AR platform anytime soon.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChunkNorris View Post
    Pretty sure it’s on the 16/L models and not the 17/H.
    The 16L pops rounds, depending on brand/type of mag. 17 doesn't. At least not that I've found.

    I imagine the 16 was designed to run best with FN's STANAG mag and not PMAGs or Troy's or whatever else. And there aren't too many options for 17 mags other than the factory one so it is a non-issue with that platform.

    Take a look inside most rifles designed to run M16 mags and you'll see the feed lips are supported by radiused rails at the top of the mag well and/or inside the upper. The M16 has them. So does the AR18. Tavor and MCX do too. Don't know about the Beretta or the Bren since I haven't messed with those.

    We found out about this stuff the "hard way" with my ACR by running hard in carbine drills. Doing stuff like VTAC barricade drills, shooting monopod prone, etc. Off the bench and/or shooting 3gun where a bolt open reload is often avoided there is no real problem.



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    I honestly have never had any problems with my ACR, and I'm probably somewhere in the 5K round count on it. It will never replace my ARs, but I find it to be much more tolerant of various grades of ammo.

    Although not as temperamental, it's also not as accurate as any of my AR's. A few years ago I replaced the original 1/9 twist barrel with a Marvin Pitts 1/7 P&W 13.9 FN barrel. He does a great build with his own gas regulator, that allows usage suppressed or unsuppressed equally as well. Maybe I just got lucky, but it has been well worth the enjoyment factor for me.

    These days I see the ACR go for 1.6K to 1.8K range brand new, which is a hell of a lot better than they used to be. With the current factory support leaking out slowly with the different barrel lengths and Mlok rails, I'm hoping the ACR is just down and not out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    The 16L pops rounds, depending on brand/type of mag. 17 doesn't. At least not that I've found.

    I imagine the 16 was designed to run best with FN's STANAG mag and not PMAGs or Troy's or whatever else. And there aren't too many options for 17 mags other than the factory one so it is a non-issue with that platform.

    Take a look inside most rifles designed to run M16 mags and you'll see the feed lips are supported by radiused rails at the top of the mag well and/or inside the upper. The M16 has them. So does the AR18. Tavor and MCX do too. Don't know about the Beretta or the Bren since I haven't messed with those.

    We found out about this stuff the "hard way" with my ACR by running hard in carbine drills. Doing stuff like VTAC barricade drills, shooting monopod prone, etc. Off the bench and/or shooting 3gun where a bolt open reload is often avoided there is no real problem.



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    Def good to know and great info.

    Quote Originally Posted by GAST View Post
    I honestly have never had any problems with my ACR, and I'm probably somewhere in the 5K round count on it. It will never replace my ARs, but I find it to be much more tolerant of various grades of ammo.

    Although not as temperamental, it's also not as accurate as any of my AR's. A few years ago I replaced the original 1/9 twist barrel with a Marvin Pitts 1/7 P&W 13.9 FN barrel. He does a great build with his own gas regulator, that allows usage suppressed or unsuppressed equally as well. Maybe I just got lucky, but it has been well worth the enjoyment factor for me.

    These days I see the ACR go for 1.6K to 1.8K range brand new, which is a hell of a lot better than they used to be. With the current factory support leaking out slowly with the different barrel lengths and Mlok rails, I'm hoping the ACR is just down and not out.
    Marvin does amazing work! I’m waiting for a Chrome lined barrel for my MR556. Right now I’m waiting for Templar’s 300blk set up.

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    Me too on the .300 Blk, Dana at Templar has been a solid source on the ACR for years.

    I'm sure you'll be loving that Nefarious Arms barrel also! Congrats!

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