Hey M4Cers,
Looking for some intel on what chose or would choose for barrel length on a 9mm PCC. This will be a PDW PCC with a pistol brace so all barrel lengths are on the table.
Thanks!
4.5
5.5
8.5
10.5
11-11.5
14.5
16
Other (Please specify in thread)
Hey M4Cers,
Looking for some intel on what chose or would choose for barrel length on a 9mm PCC. This will be a PDW PCC with a pistol brace so all barrel lengths are on the table.
Thanks!
"Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may."
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~ Sam Adams
Depends on what ammo you want to run. 147gr is fine in the 4.5”, but don’t know about 158 0r 165? I save the heavy stuff for my 7-8” in my AR9 and Scorpion EVO. I did find out the 158 is problematic in a G26.
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I went 8.5 to fit the muzzle device (KAK Slim Line Flash Can) under a hand guard. As a result, I have to use my SBR lower - I don't do pistols except as proof-of-concept before sending off Form 1.
I'm going to build a 14.5 pinned upper and peddle the 8.5. I'll probably end up using a 15" ALG Rail because LaRue doesn't make their $10.00 an incher in 15 inch.
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I just bought this: https://www.primaryarms.com/foxtrot-...ith-sba3-brace
I think that is good length so I have room on rail for light, QD sling mount, etc... while still being compact.
For a general purpose build, the 8.5" works nicely with 115-124 gr ammo and bumps the speed up a couple hundred fps.
The 8.5" 9mm barrel is the same length as an 8" 5.56 barrel, allowing a minimum 7" hand guard.
For a suppressor build, the 4"-5" range keeps the velocity down in the subsonic range.
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BRT OPTIMUM Hammer Forged Chrome Lined Barrels - 11.5", 12.5", 14.5", 16"
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I run 10.5’s on a couple.
Reasoning is more rail for light and my support hand further from muzzle.
It adds a about 250 FPS to HST, GD which is well into .357 mag velocities and is exceptionally controllable, accurate.
Thank you Clint. This is some great intel and really got me to really think through the ammo application for this project. As I think through this idea from purpose to execution, I believe the bulk of my ammo will not be subsonic ammo, but primarily 115gr which is my primary HD/SD load (Barnes Tac/XP) and I do have some heavier round in the 147gr variety, but by and large my stock is 115-124.
Have you seen any issue with heavier ammo like 147gr in the longer 8.5" barrels?
Thanks again
Rob
"Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may."
~ Sam Houston
“The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil constitution, are worth defending against all hazards: And it is our duty to defend them against all attacks.”
~ Sam Adams
"Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may."
~ Sam Houston
“The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil constitution, are worth defending against all hazards: And it is our duty to defend them against all attacks.”
~ Sam Adams
So I called PA and talked to them about this FM AR9. I would really like to get a range report from you on how well it runs, any cycling issues etc. And also down the road after you have a 1000 or so pills down range.
Feedback I got from PA was that it was a solid running pistol and that they sell A LOT of Foxtrot Mike AR9's and have had very few returned for malfunctions. But I'd rather hear that from an actual owner/shooter. You mind posting up a range report and some follow-on feedback?
Thx
RTX
"Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may."
~ Sam Houston
“The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil constitution, are worth defending against all hazards: And it is our duty to defend them against all attacks.”
~ Sam Adams
Will do. I started another thread in this section of M4C and had a lot of people chime in recommending Foxtrot Mike. I also watched a ton of video reviews. Overwhelmingly positive reviews. Mine should arrive middle of next week and I’ll be farming lead shortly thereafter.
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