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    I don't watch a QT film to be educated or to see a great work of art, I watch it for the pure nostalgia and entertainment value. Suspension of knowledge and beliefs may(will) be necessary and if you have a problem with that QT might not be for you. He also has a knack for picking the right sound track, I don't like all his work, batting about 500 or 600 for me, but with the 90+% of crap coming out of hollyweird now days that's not bad. Big plus is his movies are totally lacking in "woke", that makes them worth watching right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arik View Post
    That can be said for a lot of WW2 movies. The events never happened so its offensive
    There is a difference between "Saving Private Ryan" which never really happened and a hypothetical film about the Warsaw ghetto uprising where the jews actually won and then went on to liberate Aushwitz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    There is a difference between "Saving Private Ryan" which never really happened and a hypothetical film about the Warsaw ghetto uprising where the jews actually won and then went on to liberate Aushwitz.
    I was thinking more along the lines of Kelly's Heroes. But I'm totally fine with the Jewish uprising, and Hitler being killed in a movie theater so long as it's not presented as historical accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arik View Post
    I was thinking more along the lines of Kelly's Heroes. But I'm totally fine with the Jewish uprising, and Hitler being killed in a movie theater so long as it's not presented as historical accuracy.
    So I guess what I was trying to say is there are some things that just aren't ready to be "funny" or "enjoyable" yet. When I was in high school, I was really digging "The Final Countdown" and probably would have loved to see a modern aircraft carrier take on the Japanese Imperial fleet before Pearl Harbor. But I was a kid then, and now I understand that some people would never be able to actually enjoy something like that and that for a few others it would be like forgetting what actually happened.

    So I guess I'm glad that The Final Countdown ended the way it did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    So I guess what I was trying to say is there are some things that just aren't ready to be "funny" or "enjoyable" yet. When I was in high school, I was really digging "The Final Countdown" and probably would have loved to see a modern aircraft carrier take on the Japanese Imperial fleet before Pearl Harbor. But I was a kid then, and now I understand that some people would never be able to actually enjoy something like that and that for a few others it would be like forgetting what actually happened.

    So I guess I'm glad that The Final Countdown ended the way it did.
    I didn't find it offensive just idiotic and ruined an otherwise fun movie which he seems to do with a lot of movies.
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    I liked "Pulp Fiction". Loved "Inglorious Basterds". The "Kill Bill" series was fun and entertaining. "Django Unchained" has some nice moments. "Reservoir Dogs" was a classic the day it was released. In general, I'm a fan of his work. This one, however, was about two and a half hours of boredom to get to 10 minutes of greatness. Loved the ending. Who didn't? Except Steyr... The title now makes perfect sense, but most of the time building up to the end bored me half to sleep.

    Not sure what the dig against Bruce Lee was all about. Was he not what we've been led to believe he was? I've never thought the man was some sort of super-natural fighting force, but wasn't he a good fighter? Was this legendary man all talk?

    It was a nice night out with the wife, but this one isn't as good, in my opinion, as his previous movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    There is a difference between "Saving Private Ryan" which never really happened and a hypothetical film about the Warsaw ghetto uprising where the jews actually won and then went on to liberate Aushwitz.
    I completely agree with you on this. This is one reason I hated Inglorious Bastards.

    But, I think it is more acceptable with a smaller incident in history, as is the case with Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.

    I have not been a fan of anything Tarantino did since Jackie Brown. I actively avoided most of his movies since then, did not make it 20 minutes through the Hateful 8, and loathed Inglorious Bastards.

    But I think Once Upon a Time In Hollywood was the best thing he has ever done.

    He really knocked it out of the park with this movie. I would expect him to get academy award nominations for best screenplay, best picture, best director, as well as best actors for Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio.

    He perfectly recreated the time of 1969 for a segment of Hollywood--from the sets, to the wardrobe and accouterments, to the soundtrack. The plot and characters were well drawn and entertaining. At brief times I thought things dragged, but everything had a purpose and tied together in the end. There was also signature Tarantino quirky characters, which was quite enjoyable. There were also He did an amazing job of establishing fictitious characters in a parallel history line that would interact with and intersect with real characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulletdog View Post
    I liked "Pulp Fiction". Loved "Inglorious Basterds". The "Kill Bill" series was fun and entertaining. "Django Unchained" has some nice moments. "Reservoir Dogs" was a classic the day it was released. In general, I'm a fan of his work. This one, however, was about two and a half hours of boredom to get to 10 minutes of greatness. Loved the ending. Who didn't? Except Steyr... The title now makes perfect sense, but most of the time building up to the end bored me half to sleep.

    Not sure what the dig against Bruce Lee was all about. Was he not what we've been led to believe he was? I've never thought the man was some sort of super-natural fighting force, but wasn't he a good fighter? Was this legendary man all talk?

    It was a nice night out with the wife, but this one isn't as good, in my opinion, as his previous movies.
    I think the scene with Bruce Lee was to establish how tough Cliff was. Bruce was kind of full of himself at this stage of his life and I don't see that scene as really knocking him but more as a scrape between a tough big guy and a tough little guy that was stopped at a draw before it escalated into something really bad. Mild spoiler alert but Bruce bouncing back from that last throw down shows how tough he was, the real fight that would have started then would not have been pretty. To go along with this, the roof top scene where Cliff goes shirtless and the flat scene were setups that for an old guy he is not someone you really want to mess with.

    Actually the clues were there about the Cliff and Brandy team early on, the feeding scene was a big tell. I don't feel that the film was mostly boring, it was character development about an aging team of cowboy partners somewhat down on their luck making their way the best they can while building to the final showdown. It was also classic QT with little tells inserted throughout and little details that authenticate the time frame like smoking and hairy armpits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mack7.62 View Post
    I think the scene with Bruce Lee was to establish how tough Cliff was. Bruce was kind of full of himself at this stage of his life and I don't see that scene as really knocking him but more as a scrape between a tough big guy and a tough little guy that was stopped at a draw before it escalated into something really bad. Mild spoiler alert but Bruce bouncing back from that last throw down shows how tough he was, the real fight that would have started then would not have been pretty. To go along with this, the roof top scene where Cliff goes shirtless and the flat scene were setups that for an old guy he is not someone you really want to mess with.

    Actually the clues were there about the Cliff and Brandy team early on, the feeding scene was a big tell. I don't feel that the film was mostly boring, it was character development about an aging team of cowboy partners somewhat down on their luck making their way the best they can while building to the final showdown. It was also classic QT with little tells inserted throughout and little details that authenticate the time frame like smoking and hairy armpits.
    Interestingly enough Lee worked with Sharon Tate and had been to the home a few times. Lee actually became a suspect for a time because a pair of glasses were found at the scene and he had recently lost his glasses. But the prescriptions were different enough to rule him out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulletdog View Post
    Loved the ending. Who didn't? Except Steyr..
    Well, one thing I've learned about movies is that it is best to actually go to see the movie before you critique it.....

    As we walked out of the theatre I asked my wife 'how can I make this up to your?'

    I didn't hate the movie quiet as much as she did, we both liked the last 10 minutes or so; we both enjoyed the Bruce Lee portion; I liked the portion with Bruce Dern, as well as when he was making the movie and interacting with the kid, the wife was meh.

    Actually, pretty good convo about the movie over a late dinner, total for the evening, a little over a hundred. Worth it? Well, yeah, because I happen to enjoy hanging with the wife, movie, no.
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