Palmetto State Armory Nitride Freedom M4 Carbine Review

[RobertTheTexan]

We do seem to have this conversation repeatedly and will continue to have it. (And I’ll continue to post right along with everyone else.) Before it was PSA it was Anderson, among others. Unfortunately I wasn’t aware of how bad Anderson was until after I bought the lower and upper and stuck a DD CHF barrel in it. I probably didn’t notice afterwards because I was too busy shooting it. Frankly if I was in the shit, I wouldn’t care if the guy next to me was shooting a PSA, as long as he’s spent the time behind it to be proficient. If he’s (or she) has spent the time behind it than it should be a reliable weapon. Like most people I like quality parts and I believe every AR I’ve built has been a quality AR, but most importantly every AR I’ve built has functioned as designed. Those times my builds did not do that, they got taken apart, examined and the root cause was fleshed out and I did what I had to to do build a reliable weapon. This same forum is the one where a year or so ago, guys were bashing Aero. That just made me laugh because at that point the 20ish AR’s I had built up to that point, all were built with Aero lowers (save the few I milled out.) and I NEVER had an issue with fit /specs or finish.
As far as the demographic of PSA owners, I’m sure there are certain consistencies in those demographics, but again I for back to the guy beside me. I’ll take a PSA owner who has 8,000 rounds through the pipe over a guy with a $3000 AR who shoots it 4 times a year. And I don’t believe that all expensive AR owners are high round count shooters either.
There are certainly AR’s that I see pics of that make me wanna vomit. “The Joker” and guys who at least give the appearance of being completely clueless. But our community needs ALL pro 2A minded people. Not sure if you have figured this out, but it won’t be too many more years a before we aren’t running the show. And certainly the older I get the more crotchety and ornery I get (I know you can relate 26) ;-) But the fact is that I’d rather have a person buying or building one of those abominations and voting pro 2A than I would them voting against. I believe the gun community needs PSA and other companies like them. They fill a gap as it’s been said. Don’t like them? Don’t buy their parts. If people wanna bitch about an AR, here are a couple that should provide plenty of fodder for you.

[Hammer_Man]

We do seem to have this conversation repeatedly and will continue to have it. (And I’ll continue to post right along with everyone else.) Before it was PSA it was Anderson, among others. Unfortunately I wasn’t aware of how bad Anderson was until after I bought the lower and upper and stuck a DD CHF barrel in it. I probably didn’t notice afterwards because I was too busy shooting it. Frankly if I was in the shit, I wouldn’t care if the guy next to me was shooting a PSA, as long as he’s spent the time behind it to be proficient. If he’s (or she) has spent the time behind it than it should be a reliable weapon. Like most people I like quality parts and I believe every AR I’ve built has been a quality AR, but most importantly every AR I’ve built has functioned as designed. Those times my builds did not do that, they got taken apart, examined and the root cause was fleshed out and I did what I had to to do build a reliable weapon. This same forum is the one where a year or so ago, guys were bashing Aero. That just made me laugh because at that point the 20ish AR’s I had built up to that point, all were built with Aero lowers (save the few I milled out.) and I NEVER had an issue with fit /specs or finish.
As far as the demographic of PSA owners, I’m sure there are certain consistencies in those demographics, but again I for back to the guy beside me. I’ll take a PSA owner who has 8,000 rounds through the pipe over a guy with a $3000 AR who shoots it 4 times a year. And I don’t believe that all expensive AR owners are high round count shooters either.
There are certainly AR’s that I see pics of that make me wanna vomit. “The Joker” and guys who at least give the appearance of being completely clueless. But our community needs ALL pro 2A minded people. Not sure if you have figured this out, but it won’t be too many more years a before we aren’t running the show. And certainly the older I get the more crotchety and ornery I get (I know you can relate 26) ;-) But the fact is that I’d rather have a person buying or building one of those abominations and voting pro 2A than I would them voting against. I believe the gun community needs PSA and other companies like them. They fill a gap as it’s been said. Don’t like them? Don’t buy their parts. If people wanna bitch about an AR, here are a couple that should provide plenty of fodder for you.

Yeah, it seems like this discussion will always keep popping up, and it's started to become a broken record. I'd love it if everybody did their homework, and bought/or built a quality rifle from the get go, but that's not the world we live in. At this point I'm kind of with you, if they can run their rifle like a pro (cheap or expensive), GREAT! If not, then we need to help them get training. Personally I'd like to see the focus of our forum shift away from gear, and move toward shooting/training. That way we can move away from the repetitive gun/gear arguments entirely.

[Straight Shooter]

We do seem to have this conversation repeatedly and will continue to have it. (And I’ll continue to post right along with everyone else.) Before it was PSA it was Anderson, among others. Unfortunately I wasn’t aware of how bad Anderson was until after I bought the lower and upper and stuck a DD CHF barrel in it. I probably didn’t notice afterwards because I was too busy shooting it. Frankly if I was in the shit, I wouldn’t care if the guy next to me was shooting a PSA, as long as he’s spent the time behind it to be proficient. If he’s (or she) has spent the time behind it than it should be a reliable weapon. Like most people I like quality parts and I believe every AR I’ve built has been a quality AR, but most importantly every AR I’ve built has functioned as designed. Those times my builds did not do that, they got taken apart, examined and the root cause was fleshed out and I did what I had to to do build a reliable weapon. This same forum is the one where a year or so ago, guys were bashing Aero. That just made me laugh because at that point the 20ish AR’s I had built up to that point, all were built with Aero lowers (save the few I milled out.) and I NEVER had an issue with fit /specs or finish.
As far as the demographic of PSA owners, I’m sure there are certain consistencies in those demographics, but again I for back to the guy beside me. I’ll take a PSA owner who has 8,000 rounds through the pipe over a guy with a $3000 AR who shoots it 4 times a year. And I don’t believe that all expensive AR owners are high round count shooters either.
There are certainly AR’s that I see pics of that make me wanna vomit. “The Joker” and guys who at least give the appearance of being completely clueless. But our community needs ALL pro 2A minded people. Not sure if you have figured this out, but it won’t be too many more years a before we aren’t running the show. And certainly the older I get the more crotchety and ornery I get (I know you can relate 26) ;-) But the fact is that I’d rather have a person buying or building one of those abominations and voting pro 2A than I would them voting against. I believe the gun community needs PSA and other companies like them. They fill a gap as it’s been said. Don’t like them? Don’t buy their parts. If people wanna bitch about an AR, here are a couple that should provide plenty of fodder for you.

Damn good post sir.
I think our job here..should be to make new shooters aware of past problems...how to look for these problems and inspect newly bought rifles..where to get parts & how to install them properly if there is a problem.
You get these douchebags on here, who Id bet a crisp hundy havent fired a thousand rounds total of anything in their lives, ragging & making fun of people who buy something they, for some most likely INVALID reason, dont like just to either come off as the next IG...they aint...or to build post count so they can start selling some crappy shit in the Exchange, which is what I believe a previous douchebag who trolled me in this thread was doing.
When I came here LMT was THE shit. Then later..it wasnt. Ive seen almost ALL name brands denigrated on here at one time or another.
Lets try to explain things here to our fellow gun owners, and if they listen & learn...great! If they dont, screw em, let them keep sinking their own cash into an Olympic or Del Ton or whatever.

[26 Inf]

I believe every AR I’ve built has been a quality AR, but most importantly every AR I’ve built has functioned as designed. Those times my builds did not do that, they got taken apart, examined and the root cause was fleshed out and I did what I had to to do build a reliable weapon.

As far as the demographic of PSA owners, I’m sure there are certain consistencies in those demographics, but again I for back to the guy beside me. I’ll take a PSA owner who has 8,000 rounds through the pipe over a guy with a $3000 AR who shoots it 4 times a year. And I don’t believe that all expensive AR owners are high round count shooters either.

our community needs ALL pro 2A minded people. Not sure if you have figured this out, but it won’t be too many more years a before we aren’t running the show. And certainly the older I get the more crotchety and ornery I get (I know you can relate 26) ;-)

Well. yeah but I take pills for that.

Another quality post as usual.

I know I often seem to be the contrarian regarding people's views of differing manufacturers. I think it is largely because when I started my AR addiction I was an older guy who had young kids (I was 45 when the last two came along) and was spending my money raising them instead of on myself. Go-kart racing, year-round club swimming, voice and stringed bass lessons kept me scratching for coin even though I was making okay money.

As a result, when I started building I started budget. Initially PSA lowers, then pretty much whatever lowers I thought were a good buys on AIM Surplus - my thought process was, and remains, 'if I buy three lowers $49.95 at a time for a $15.00 transfer fee, I'm not out that much if one, or even all of them are out of spec.' So far that has worked out for me. Bottom line is, like you 'those times my builds did not do that, they got taken apart, examined and the root cause was fleshed out and I did what I had to to do build a reliable weapon.

I think for the serious user who doesn't want to bother with building their own, some of the bread-and-butter brands folks like to hype, BCM, Sionics, Colt....are fine. For the guy that likes to put them together, discernment of what you are getting for your money is more important than blind brand loyalty.

[phixion]

To make matters worse, I get on Facebook last night, and there's Chad Wylie of PSA talking shit to people who are pointing out PSA issues in a private group. It was probably 3am drunk posting, but it certainly didn't portray him or PSA in a positive manner. He even took jabs at SOLGW. Imagine being a company who makes maybe/maybe not in spec meme lowers who just figured out in 2019 that you might want to incorporate proven methods into your building routine, and then take jabs at SOLGW because some random dudes are saying things online.

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[Uni-Vibe]

I think Robert the Texan is optimistic. Only shoot an AR four times a year? I know people with AR's who fired 50 rounds when they got them, and they've sat them in a closet since. There are a lot of AR owners who are not shooters. One guy who has a nice Colt HBAR 20" match gun says he just likes to tell people he has an AR-15.

[26 Inf]

I think Robert the Texan is optimistic. Only shoot an AR four times a year? I know people with AR's who fired 50 rounds when they got them, and they've sat them in a closet since. There are a lot of AR owners who are not shooters. One guy who has a nice Colt HBAR 20" match gun says he just likes to tell people he has an AR-15.

Brother, I would bet half the folks ranting in GD haven't been to the range in a year.

[Diamondback]

Brother, I would bet half the folks ranting in GD haven't been to the range in a year.

Guilty as charged. Life kinda does that when you're ball-and-chained to an invalid parent... at this stage, even "practice" with Airsoft would be an improvement.

That said, I need to *find* or *make* a way to get out more... maybe see if my aunt's up for a side trip to the pistol range on grocery day or something, since she's gonna have to be my backup if Methmouth Mike and Crackhead Charlie decide they wanna come play and needs to start working on learning this stuff too.

[Five_Point_Five_Six]

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[LookAtYourself]

Im not sure blasting wolf ammo into a pile of dirt an arms length away translates into proficiency or effectiveness in a firefight. Maybe their trigger fingers don't get tired as quickly as mine would...

It might translate into proficiency in blowing their leg off when shooting tannerite too close to them though. Lmao!


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