Don't you threaten me with a good time!Originally Posted by Firefly
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Don't you threaten me with a good time!
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^Spot on (@Norseman)
Also, if an agency wants a duty-capable precision pistol for service use, and they're not highly constrained by budget, you have to wonder if they looked at the Wilson EDC X9. Seriously--if they're looking at the STI, they should be testing the EDC X9 too IMHO. Seems to offer all the benefits of the 1911-platform pistol while addressing some of the downsides (such as higher cap, integral plunger tube, external extractor, etc). On paper, if I had a specific RFP and the STI met it, it's hard to imagine that the EDC X9 would not meet it as well.
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A truly reliable double stack 9mm 1911 based gun has been sort of the holy grail/ best of all possible worlds pistol for a long time. The issue was no one had been able to produce such a pistol consistently and or without a lot of personal tweaking. Apparently that barrier has been broken. My understanding was the first company to really pull that off was Wilson as well as making short barreled 1911's reliable, which makes some sense.
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I guess it boils down to what you are okay with as far as spending goes. I’m not okay with it. Just the same as I’m not okay with the government spending X amount on a hammer when the average price is Y. It is what it is.
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Hopefully you are pissed the Corps wasted all that money on the M45 to be in services for a couple years, then get largely pulled for Glocks, which could have done the same job in nearly every case.
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Do people get pissed at NODs that never get used, or anything nicer than a PVS14? Expensive pants? What is the price of an average warfighter’s load-out? Pistols are small potatoes if it’s a $500 Glock or an $800 1911.
Why is nobody complaining about the red dot sight on the gun? Irons come on the gun...they do the same job as the red dot.
Either way, nobody knows what the cost of the STIs was. I suspect their LE price is significantly less than consumer pricing. Additionally, I’d wager STI was looking for an opportunity to showcase their new designs and charged even less.
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This may be one of the greatest quotes I’ve heard in a while.
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As Gen-X, I agree
Too bad the Wilson didn't catch on more. You'd think that as the 40SW gives way to 9mm in gaming, that it might have a shot. But never underestimate the inertia of an incumbent system. I wish I could win the lottery to put my buddy on retainer and just have him make me stuff. "Here's an STI frame and slide and a Glock 17 mag, come back when they work".
Out of curiosity, anyone have the blue prints for 2011 slides and 'lowers'?
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For gaming, unless major rules changes happen, the .40 is here to stay. It has the capacity over .45 ACP, and it starts with a “4” to appease the old timers that made the rules for major scoring.As Gen-X, I agree
Too bad the Wilson didn't catch on more. You'd think that as the 40SW gives way to 9mm in gaming, that it might have a shot. But never underestimate the inertia of an incumbent system. I wish I could win the lottery to put my buddy on retainer and just have him make me stuff. "Here's an STI frame and slide and a Glock 17 mag, come back when they work".
Out of curiosity, anyone have the blue prints for 2011 slides and 'lowers'?
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