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Thread: American Tragedy - Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    Everyone say it with me,

    “HARD RESET”


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    In my experience, the wrong people always die and those who really need to die secure their power and wealth anyway. I'd prefer some other Option B.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    ...(of course it never will succeed).
    Quoted part was the second half of my point. We agree that it will never succeed, but that is not because they are just going to say "ok" and give up. It will be because we've had to force them to leave us alone one way or another.

    People like you and me are not going to give up our ideals. Neither is the other side. Hence, the impasse we find ourselves in. Only one side will get its way. Neither side will give up. Communism never wins and it won't win this time either. They are forcing us to fight them and prove it. Again. They aren't going to force me to bend to their will, and I'm pretty sure not you either. But when the time comes, you and I will force them to bend to ours. We just aren't quite there yet.
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    The idiot Democrats are out to destroy this country. This is the only reasonable explanation for their antics and "policies."

    We need more government like we need bloody hemorrhoids. Look at the Epstein situation, at its best it is an example of absolute incompetence, on many different levels. Worst case is, well you know.

    Who would want these career bottom feeders running the healthcare system. If you can't make it in the private sector, well, there is always the .gov. It is high time for the good people of this country to wake up and start calling them out on their bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKGuns View Post
    Who would want these career bottom feeders running the healthcare system. If you can't make it in the private sector, well, there is always the .gov. It is high time for the good people of this country to wake up and start calling them out on their bullshit.
    If the MSM was actually the people's government watchdog instead of the propaganda arm of the ComDem party I think things would be different. The communists and the voters supporting them would be a small minority.
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    This last week saw multiple attacks on ICE offices, including an arson attack.

    Could immigration be the issue that will strike the spark, that brings us to bloody Kansas?

    The Dems want open borders, to speed the end of the Republic.

    I will never kneel, nor give up my guns.

    But I also am thinking a plan B might be a good idea.

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    Let's not forget that the time of the lost social values that Tuck laments also featured brutal apartheid, violent suppression of workers, institutionalized police brutality and corruption, and harsh cultural norms that turned much of American life into soulless conformity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uni-Vibe View Post
    Let's not forget that the time of the lost social values that Tuck laments also featured brutal apartheid, violent suppression of workers, institutionalized police brutality and corruption, and harsh cultural norms that turned much of American life into soulless conformity.

    Can you expand on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uni-Vibe View Post
    Let's not forget that the time of the lost social values that Tuck laments also featured brutal apartheid, violent suppression of workers, institutionalized police brutality and corruption, and harsh cultural norms that turned much of American life into soulless conformity.
    Just because there were societal defects in places around the world at a particular time does not diminish the good values that were then the norm.

    Instead of getting wiser we threw out most good values and still have racial hatred, employment bias, plus nearly every govt agency has a SWAT like team, implicit political approval of attacks on police and violent rioting, govt protected and funded violent killing of a million babies per year, a flood of men making babies and not hanging around to be a responsible father, a culture of give-me entitlement, etc.

    We could have resolved human right injustices while maintaining other moral values. But we did not. So we don’t want to go back to all the conditions of the 50s, but it would be nice to recover the good values that were widely accepted then.
    It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! ... Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry in an address at St. John’s Church, Richmond, Virginia, on March 23, 1775.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    I disagree, but it may be semantics. We, as Conservatives, generally want to just be left alone. The Left's agenda, however, is a mandatory forced-participation theory. They think "I don't like guns so you can't have any either". We think "If you find guns icky you don't have to own one." We don't seek to impose our "will" upon them, yet that is what they must do to us to have their fvcked-up plan succeed (of course it never will succeed).
    We, being Conservatives, do not play the game the same way the left plays the game. The left relentlessly attacks and breaks all boundaries in win at all costs mind set. The left has clearly demonstrated this in countless examples. Conservatives need to become more comfortable with stooping to the lefts level, hit below the belt, etc..... conservatives need to get over the fact that playing dirty is morally objectionable yet absolutely required to win. I don’t think Conservatives need a “join us or die” mindset, we need to be willing to get dirty, maybe even get a little blood on our shoes. Forget the loss of nobility or being “gentlemen”, especially when our opponent is willing to do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    Everyone say it with me,

    “HARD RESET”


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    Not to disagree, a hard reset might be the absolute end of everything we know. If it can be avoided, IMO, plan B should be thought about.....at least.

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