National association for gun rights?
Second amendment foundation?
Gun owners of America?
What do you think?
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National association for gun rights?
Second amendment foundation?
Gun owners of America?
What do you think?
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I wish the GOA was a huge organization with almost 5 million members, but if that happened they'd probably become a lazy ass lobby group who funnels most of their income into advertising and membership drives while engaging in token efforts at best.
In the past members have been able to make direction changes and demand greater action a few times successfully. Not sure if it was the strength of the membership at the time or societal values or a combination of both.
What I do know is Congress and the rest of our enemies pretty much have no idea who the GOA, JPFO or the SAF even are. The only evil bugaboo they know is the NRA and even if they completely piss us off on a regular basis they are still better than not having an NRA. Being a Life Member I will absolutely never give them another dime until they start earning it and anytime I take their call I let them know that 100% of any donations will be going to the ILA so they can't mismanage it.
GOA is probably the most proactive organization I've ever seen, but I don't think they wield any true influence yet. When Zelman was alive, JPFO got some amazing information out to the shooting community but I think he was the driving force and once he was gone so was the effort.
IMO it's worth the $35 a year to build a big rock in the middle of the progressive road, and honestly the NRA is about as useful / useless as a big rock in the middle of the road and tell them if they want anything more they need to dance for their money. They put out a magazine with election alerts and stuff like that which most gun owners need because they haven't got a clue about anything. But we need to remember the NRA once considered Harry Reid an A+ rated politician.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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GOA does send out accurate candidate ratings versus the NRA. They inform you exactly what the candidate did to get a D rating instead of the NRA giving the same person a high grade or endorsement with no background info.
GOA also sends out alerts on anti 2nd amendment legislation and they don't spin it any way other than what it is.
Last edited by jsbhike; 08-19-19 at 05:18.
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Sorry, no one other than the NRA has any power in Washington.
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Might want to ponder why that appears to be the case.Originally Posted by themonk
http://jpfo.org/articles-assd02/gca68-nra3.htm
"The National Rifle Association has been in support of workable, enforceable gun control legislation since its very inception in 1871." — NRA Executive Vice President Franklin L. Orth NRA's American Rifleman Magazine, March 1968, P. 22
The NRA routinely approves of anti-2nd Amendment candidates and promotes bad legislation so of course politicians will play them up.
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Nothing new and if you think that is their power source you're fooling yourself and are confused about how Washington works. Its about number of members, members that vote and can be proved to vote, money and good lobbyists.
Last edited by themonk; 08-19-19 at 07:55.
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I didnt renew my NRA and went to GOA. They are not as big or powerful, but align with my beliefs. No compromise and i like that they keep you up to date with legislation emails etc.
They even recently sent a pre-drafted letter you could just add your name to and send to politicians about upcoming red flag litigation
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The NRA endorsed Mitt Romney in 2012 based on his vague statement that he didn't believe in going forward with any new gun laws. Granted, he was the lesser of two evils over Obama, but I don't think he was "lesser" enough to warrant an endorsement, considering Romney has been a long been proudly and loudly in favor of assault weapons bans. They could have easily just withheld endorsement from either candidate.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who do not.-Ben Franklin
there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it’s worth fighting for.-Samwise Gamgee
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You should join all of them!
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He was the republican nominee. What's your recommendation they don't endorse anyone?
80% of life is showing up and if your a lobbyist that just showed up with money and the candidate wins, you now have influence.
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