Just FYI. Underwood 9mm with hardcast bullets penetrated 40+" in this guy's test. And the Buffalo Bore went through all three 16" gel blocks exceeding 48" of penetration.
https://youtu.be/14idIdh1VhE?si=lxzlMGW0zf2n1XHy&t=169
Just FYI. Underwood 9mm with hardcast bullets penetrated 40+" in this guy's test. And the Buffalo Bore went through all three 16" gel blocks exceeding 48" of penetration.
https://youtu.be/14idIdh1VhE?si=lxzlMGW0zf2n1XHy&t=169
Last edited by georgeib; 12-14-23 at 12:03.
“You have made us for yourself, O Lord, and our heart is restless until it rests in you.” -Augustine
Of course there's no way of identifying how many times 9mm didn't stop the bear.
Cross out "Bells", and replace with "9mm brass".
grizzlybears and warning sign.jpg
“Detached Reflection Cannot Be Demanded in the Presence of an Uplifted Knife” ~ Brown v. United States (1921)
Oh, I didn't know that. I thought I remembered hearing the opposite is true, but I may be getting it backwards.
ETA: just read that clear gel doesn't expand hollow points as well as 10% calibrated gelatin, and this is the reason it allows, on average, 56% deeper penetration with hollow point bullets. Would be interesting to see a back to back test using FMJ and hard cast bullets in both gels to see what the differences are.
Last edited by georgeib; 12-14-23 at 20:13.
“You have made us for yourself, O Lord, and our heart is restless until it rests in you.” -Augustine
I’ve experienced nearly 4’ of penetration on a big (430 lb) Boar Hog with a “Cast Performance” 300 gr, WFNGC .45 out of a custom 5” Bisley. It was a “head on” shot at 1200+ FPS.
Good, “heavy for caliber”, Cast bullets at 1100-1200 FPS have always exhibited exceptional penetration in game IME.
A true "Gun Guy" (or gal) should have familiarity and a modicum of proficiency with most all firearms platforms.
I do not have any experience shooting bears, but soon will if they keep coming in my yard, Game Wardens, be dammed !! I do have considerable experience using handguns on deer, 44 Mag & heavy loaded 45 ACP. Handguns do not deliver the shock delivered by a more powerful rifle. Unless you shoot into the brain or spinal cord they just have to bleed out. They may do that standing, or laying down, of if already excited, while running. Bears, I expect may bleed out while charging !!
Great point!! Linebaugh was a proponent of 1200fps for heavy hard cast bullets. 1200fps was good enough:
1. Recoil management and recovery to get a follow up shot off.
2. Lower pressure and friendly on handgun parts.
3. A heavy enough bullet with large meplat will have tremendous penetration at 1200fps.
4. 1200 fps is a flat enough trajectory for 100 yard shots.
When I started working up loads for my 41magnum, the buffalo bore results were impressive. But! I avoided the trap and followed Linebaugh's advice. I have a revolver that is fun to shoot and practice with rather than dread a range session.
Bookmarks