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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    Thats kinda of Orwellian...
    AH! Being familiar with Orwell’s 1984 and questioning Pre-Crime. What do you have to hide, sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Let’s just go for it and have a Department of Pre-Crime and start doing constant checks of social media, finances, credit, arms owned, recent arms purchased, publications owned, publications purchased and start issuing Social Credit. If a person gets below a certain level they are more stringently surveilled and past that they are given a pre-emptive mental health screening and curtilage of all properties owned, inhabited, or acquainted are searched.

    If it just saves one life...
    Oy! Mate, are you up on your prozium??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Let’s just go for it and have a Department of Pre-Crime and start doing constant checks of social media, finances, credit, arms owned, recent arms purchased, publications owned, publications purchased and start issuing Social Credit. If a person gets below a certain level they are more stringently surveilled and past that they are given a pre-emptive mental health screening and curtilage of all properties owned, inhabited, or acquainted are searched.

    If it just saves one life...
    Stasi 2.0. Has a ring to it and they can harken back to their roots of protecting the State from free men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    Thats kinda of Orwellian...
    Or Vanilla Skyish or whatever that stupid movie Tom Cruise did.


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    Actually it was based on a book from the 50s written by the guy who came up with Total Recall and Blade Runner and everyone called him a Communist because surely nothing like that would happen in the good ol USA

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    The Red Flag Laws are a bigger threat than the AWB was.

    We already have a mental health issue commitment system.
    It already gets abused by parents, grandparents, lovers, spouses, etc. to no end.

    Just use the current system.
    It may ruin innocent lives and careers, but at a smoldering kind of in the background level/low rate. The bulk of it is used appropriately for good.

    We have opened up the doors to political officers whisking away gun owners with no innocent until proven guilty or anything close to constitutional protections.
    “Where weapons may not be carried, it is well to carry weapons.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramairthree View Post
    The Red Flag Laws are a bigger threat than the AWB was.

    We already have a mental health issue commitment system.
    It already gets abused by parents, grandparents, lovers, spouses, etc. to no end.

    Just use the current system.
    It may ruin innocent lives and careers, but at a smoldering kind of in the background level/low rate. The bulk of it is used appropriately for good.

    We have opened up the doors to political officers whisking away gun owners with no innocent until proven guilty or anything close to constitutional protections.
    In a short time we have come from a justice system that said "better to let a 100 guilty men free than imprison 1 innocent man" to "better to imprison 100 innocent men than let 1 guilty man free".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramairthree View Post
    The Red Flag Laws are a bigger threat than the AWB was.

    We already have a mental health issue commitment system.
    It already gets abused by parents, grandparents, lovers, spouses, etc. to no end.

    Just use the current system.
    It may ruin innocent lives and careers, but at a smoldering kind of in the background level/low rate. The bulk of it is used appropriately for good.

    We have opened up the doors to political officers whisking away gun owners with no innocent until proven guilty or anything close to constitutional protections.
    This.

    Piss off your wife/gf? Goon squad

    Make boss feel “uncomfortable”? Goon squad

    At high school and teacher doesn’t like you? Goon squad

    Neighbor pissed? Goon squad

    And the prevailing model is the ‘Angry White Male’.
    Disgruntled with how society is getting and bitching about it too much? Goon squad.

    Yet if we look at the totality of murders the active killings are not done by Angry White Males. You just have what you’ve always had. A person snapping and going on a fit. That’s nigh unavoidable short of locking everyone up or putting them on brainkillers like we are in a Vonnegut novel.

    If I told you there were gonna be 30 dead in Chicago nobody bats an eye, ho hum. But if we get into demographics we see who is being singled out for this and why.

    I have stated that there are two groups who never worry. The super rich and the super poor.

    Everyone in the middle is 3 good skipped meals or traffic tickets away from being ruined. We are ultimately switching Jim Crow with James Dove.

    This has very much to do with changing voter eligibility as well as a means of self defense.

    Everyone is getting sold out to keep people in office. We have a lot of relatively younger and non traditional congress people who want to be there for the next 20 years and outspokenness and broadcasting that you are armed makes you a target.

    That’s why they keep pumping us full of potential voters with no stake in this country.

    Convenient. You never hear of the gang or the cartel getting red flagged. “We cannot jump to conclusions!”

    If you actually listen to the lawmakers now they aren’t making any secret as to who they see as a threat. “Duurr they are just stupid Democrats let’s just keep voting Republican everybody”

    How naive. Look at who is also pounding the drum to strip you of your due process.

    I mean...... life would be easy if we could say “The bad guys are in there” and haul them off. But I then ask, at what price tyranny?

    A gilded cage is still a cage. A great surrender has already happened and we are just now getting the word. This was nothing new. This has been around for 60-70 years.

    What good are you if you are armed and ostensibly prepared to buck back against sweeping overreach of power? You aren’t going to vote the ‘right way’ and thus you become a problem.

    And there is nothing you can do.
    The very people we voted for to turn it around simply turned it back on us.

    If we had another Smedley Butler, he’d be tossed in the loony bin.

    Per Antifa, you were all told 10 years ago, “A force equal to or greater than the military or police.” Were you really thinking about obvious UN forces or guys with tanks? The American Left has been flirting with the European black bloc for decades now.

    At every large city, no matter what your message; you will see Antifa. They are protected and are positively represented in the media.

    Look who goes to jail in these upsets and who doesn’t.

    So....there it is.

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    I'm starting to see the Red Flag laws working in concert with their 'limbo lower' on mag limits and other 'registration schemes'. Lower the mag limit with out grandfathering of previously owned mags and there are a lot of people that don't even know or ignore the law. Get "Red Flagged" and they take everything and guess what they find...

    That is how the do the 'door-to-door' under the guise of red flag. Small, but targeted and nearly random. Just one tool for them to use on anyone that opens their mouth. And you vets are double screwed in that you are 'extra' dangerous because of your training.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    AH! Being familiar with Orwell’s 1984 and questioning Pre-Crime. What do you have to hide, sir?
    It’s like government has gotten so good at keeping our attention with a giant, loud, flashing right hand,
    Anyone paying attention to the invisible left hand with a molecule thin blade sinister sneaking under the rib cage from behind is suspect.
    “Where weapons may not be carried, it is well to carry weapons.”

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