Originally Posted by
masterdrago
No, I've not replaced the extractor. I keep thinking that something is either moving too fast or too slow and sometimes forcing the new round out of the magazine at some odd angle and ramming it in canted. The big scratch marks indicate it has come into contact with possibly the feed ramps in a bad way - fast, slow?
First of all, in my scolding voice, the extractor is one of the more inexpensive parts to replace, why not?
Let me walk you through this, in my understanding:
When the cartridge fires, the elastic case material (brass - steel is also used, but not as elastic as brass) expands and firmly adheres to the walls of the chamber, as the pressure builds, pushing the projectile down the barrel.
The gas is diverted from the pressure filled barrel at the gas port. The length of the barrel beyond the gas port has to be of sufficient length to keep the gas pressure high enough and long enough for sufficient pressured gas to be vented through the gas port to function the system. This can be accomplished by increasing or decreasing the gas port size, by using an adjustable gas port, by moving the gas port, by shortening or lengthening the barrel.
If the system is under-gassed it doesn't have enough 'ooomph!' to cycle and can fail in several ways - not extracting fully, not ejecting as a result of this, failing to pick up the next round because the bolt head doesn't come far enough to the rear, and failing to lock back on the last round. There is more, but you get the idea.
If the system is over-gassed it tries to cycle too fast. There can be all kinds of problems as a result, but a primary problem is that the bolt tries to extract the round BEFORE the elastic case material - mentioned in the first paragraph - has contracted enough to allow the case to be extracted. As a result case rims can tear-off (which you haven't experienced), the extractor can lose it's grip on the stuck case and leave it in the chamber, or extraction can be impeded enough to cause a failure to eject.
A weak extractor spring, or a damaged extractor can cause problems in any rifle, but perhaps is most evident in properly gassed and over-gassed systems. This is why, even in a piston system, ensuring the extractor is functioning properly is a first step.
The pictures you have provided seem to indicate that the fired cases was loose in the upper, further evidence of an extraction problem.
You seem focused on using ejection pattern to diagnose, and while can be usefull, it is not an exact science. For instance, on my service rifle I clip the ejector spring to alter ejection pattern to aid in retrieving brass and to keep from plunking folks I am squadded with, you might think I'm overgassed, but that isn't the case.
Get a new extractor spring installed.
JM $.02, someone will be along to correct any glaring misconceptions I've put forth.
Last edited by 26 Inf; 09-22-19 at 21:39.
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