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    Quote Originally Posted by Slater View Post
    I think it pretty much has to be CGI to get the SBD's, TBM's, Wildcats, etc. correct and in the correct numbers. Not to mention the various American and Japanese ships. I'm okay with CGI if it looks at least somewhat realistic.
    CGI is great when you need it and can do it without making it look like CGI. When you rely on CGI and it is obviously CGI then it just kills the movie. Unless the movie is supposed to be a cartoon.
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    Ironically enough I just watched my DVD of Midway (1976) the other night so no real reason to watch a cartoonish version.
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    I immediately though of https://www.midwayusa.com/
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    I can agree that use of cgi just to make a cgi movie usually sucks. But, if this movies pulls in a lot of viewers who never even heard of the Battle of Midway and shows America in a very positive, strong , patriotic light without all the SJW crap then isn't that a good thing?
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    All I hear when the dude says “Washington is wrong” is Marissa Tomei in “My Cousin Vinny” saying “The defense is wrooang.”

    I feel another “Atlas Shrugged”- a great story ruined by horrible script, bad CGI and wooden acting.
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    I think WWII movies of a certain scale are becoming nonfeasible.

    Tora Tora Tora has real planes with real engines and no musical score.

    This looks like a total video game. I actually, in a way, have a problem witj WWII films after so many eras as they prove to be more revisionist as those who could speak to it are going away.

    Past a certain point, history can become whatever people want it to be.

    In the 60s, the men who participated were in their 30s and 40s. So certain things just wouldnt fly.

    Its too video gamey.

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    In reality, the Battle of Midway was so dramatic in it's own way that it doesn't need to be "Hollywoodized" or embellished. If a Japanese scout plane had been able to launch on time, or a recon pilot had taken a longer look, or any number of factors had gone the other way, the outcome might have been different. I know that a lot of people don't believe in "luck" or "chance", but it was definitely on our side in June of 1942.

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    As a 5-6 grader, I read all I could about Midway. Second only to Battle off Samar as part of the Battle of Leyte Gulf. The surface actions around Guadalcanal are also amazing, and little talked about.

    Frankly, that DCS game has better graphics.
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    There is so much depth to what happened at Midway and what it meant that I hope this version does not trivialize it with cheap graphics and shallow script. The brazen and seemingly futile attack of the torpedo planes that ultimately bought just enough time for the dive bombers and interrupted the Japanese carriers cannot is at the pinnacle of bravery and service. On a scale like that of the destroyers and Jeep carriers attacking battleships, cruisers and carriers at Leyte. Or troops attacking up Mt. Suribachi or Monte Cassino.

    And the boldness of the carriers to press the pursuit of a far superior force. The entire task force were penultimate warriors. The tragedy for the brave Japanese force hinged on differences of a few minutes. The fate of the war hinged on these few minutes. If we had lost our carriers at Midway and the Japanese force remained intact, WWII in the Pacific may have lasted another 2-3 years. How much more fortified would the islands had been if they were given another 2 years to build up?

    If the movie fails to solemnly honor the bravery, sacrifice, superhuman efforts and determination at all levels of command then it is a travesty. If it tries to stir up old animosities with Japan it is diabolical. My dad fought in many of the islands and although witnessed many horrors of war, he never hated the Japanese people or warriors, but instead had much respect for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flenna View Post
    I can agree that use of cgi just to make a cgi movie usually sucks. But, if this movies pulls in a lot of viewers who never even heard of the Battle of Midway and shows America in a very positive, strong , patriotic light without all the SJW crap then isn't that a good thing?
    I don't have much faith in the presentation of events either.
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