Colt to Suspend Civilian sells of AR's

[Diamondback]

The rumor is still spreading, GAT Daily was reporting the RSR Group bad-info like it was an exclusive leak yesterday. Guess that's one newsletter I can Unsubscribe... ISTR an old saying about "the lie gets halfway around the world before the truth even has its boots on."

“Flagship” doesn’t mean their absolute best. After all their current flagship is the plain 6920.

Am I lower would be outstanding but I don’t think the monolithic upper would be a big enough seller...plus the LMT royalties on top of the UAW probably would take a big cut in profits.

Does the Colt Canada IUR have the same licensing from LMT, or is it a homegrown parallel development? If the latter, that might be an answer...

[JediGuy]

Does the Colt Canada IUR have the same licensing from LMT, or is it a homegrown parallel development? If the latter, that might be an answer...

I don’t recall if there was parallel development, but there is LMT involvement at some level.

[NYH1]

I'm almost certain that their contract was extended late last year in a split with FN.

I saw an article that said Colt and FN currently have a joint contract to supply the DoD with M4 and M4A1 Carbines through 2020.

NYH1.

[jojo]

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[OldState]

No.

But AU sold out of their $899 6920s in 3 days. They had 22 in stock when I began buying some.

I bought one of them...and really wasn’t currently in the market for a compete rifle purchase. If this is a tactic they suckered me.

[Sry0fcr]

“Flagship” doesn’t mean their absolute best.

That's exactly what flagship means friend.

After all their current flagship is the plain 6920.

Well, that's the problem/biggest criticism isn't it?

[pinzgauer]

I'll buy FN's if I need an M4 type rifle-- they are an M4 supplier to Uncle Sam who meets all the TDP as well.

Very clearly you have not looked closely at what they are selling for AR-15s on the commercial market.

If they were pulling mil rifles off the line with semi auto fire control groups it would be different.

But that's not what they're doing.

Likewise the large pin stuff says more about what the ATF required manufacturers to do at the time then conscious Colt decisions.

Same reason the H&K 91 was was irreversibly modified relative to G3s. It's not just using semi FCGs. They were forced to neuter them to be able to sell as semis.

Now with both Colt and H&K derivatives it's more relaxed. But at the time those changes were required.

Anyone who has a "good riddance" mindset to a manufacturer stopping selling products to firearms owners is very short-sighted. I'll even include Ruger in that.

[Slater]

FN barrels seem to be well regarded, both civilian and .mil.

[nick84]

Seems like there's a few folks who let their irritation with Colt's business practices color their opinions on the quality of the product.

It's pretty arguable that they have crapped on the consumer market in favor of the government contract arena, and they've completely failed to innovate in the rifle arena they once owned. Perfectly justifiable reasons to not buy IMO.

But that doesn't mean that the 6920 is magically a piece of shit, either. Good bang for the buck.

More guns for more people is more gooder.

[Eurodriver]

Seems like there's a few folks who let their irritation with Colt's business practices color their opinions on the quality of the product.

It's pretty arguable that they have crapped on the consumer market in favor of the government contract arena, and they've completely failed to innovate in the rifle arena they once owned. Perfectly justifiable reasons to not buy IMO.

But that doesn't mean that the 6920 is magically a piece of shit, either. Good bang for the buck.

More guns for more people is more gooder.

Agreed.

It’s also their lack of marketing. Gun owners fall for the dumbest advertising. Everyone wants to be tacticool, just as long as it doesn’t involve lacing up some Bates. Specs don’t get people excited the same way that shiny FDE rails and laser engraved triggers do.

The great irony in the above is that you cannot juxtapose a “boring” 6920 against a flashy Geissele without mentioning that nearly 100% of bad guys killed with carbines in the hands of Americans over the 20 years of nearly continuous combat have had “Colt” stamped on the side.

The reason those rifles were in the sandbox in the first place isn’t because their CEO is a good businessman or even because “Colt” itself is an inherently good manufacturer of weapons. It’s because the rifles meet specifications that have been tweaked and perfected over the last 50 years.

People can hate Colt all the want. Many of the arguments are valid. They don’t innovate at all. They don’t care about the civilian market. But you can’t say a Colt 6920 doesn’t work. Because a Colt M4 works, and as Pinz mentioned, the Colt 6920 is an M4 with a different trigger group and a 1.5” longer barrel.