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    More 4D Chess Incoming?

    Well, it seems there are some... interesting, if not potentially disturbing noises coming from Whiskey Hotel, per upcoming gun legislation...
    I don't want to start a conspiracy/alarm thread here, but word does seem to be getting around on this, so... here we go.

    https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/h...I30AX2QwyU0w2U
    No idea how reputable GA is, but here's the intersting bit:

    However, McConnell (R-KY) was quick to dampen expectations, saying that a bipartisan group of lawmakers are “working on coming up with a proposal that the president will sign. Until that happens, all of this is theatrics,” according to The Hill.

    “So we do in fact await word from the White House about what the president is willing to sign. That’s important to a lot of my members. It also, at the risk of repeating a history lesson, is the only way we will get a law,” McConnell added.


    Given the three hot bills I've heard of being tabled are a national Red Flag law, a national "hate crime" law, and a mag ban, I'm not getting any warm fuzzies when they talk about some sort of "bipartisan" background check bill...

    This will be interesting for sure...
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    “They came for my radios, my vapes, my privacy, my traditions, my freedom of association, my money....

    Then they came for my guns and I realized that day; I no longer had anything left to lose.”

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    Lmao...

    Anyone want to guess which racial direction Disarm Hate laws are going to trend???



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    McConnell needs to FOAD. He needs to stop trying to work with the grabbers and simply resign.
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    I don't know what else could be done to "expand" a background check? We have the NICS check in New Mexico and it goes pretty quick. So maybe the expanded check will involve a psychological questionnaire with a Rorschach Test in addition to the 4473.

    To weed out deviants and wackjobs, you pass if you see a butterfly - you get denied if you see human kidneys or a spilled milkshake....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OH58D View Post
    I don't know what else could be done to "expand" a background check? We have the NICS check in New Mexico and it goes pretty quick. So maybe the expanded check will involve a psychological questionnaire with a Rorschach Test in addition to the 4473.

    To weed out deviants and wackjobs, you pass if you see a butterfly - you get denied if you see human kidneys or a spilled milkshake....
    To me, "expanding a background check" means a UBC of some sort. While that's just in the batter's box for now, the little bite they'll take is expanding who can't get a gun (RFL, "hate crime" BS, etc.).

    Toe in water, see how hot it gets. Okay, that slid by with the citizens without much blowback and it didn't actually stop any mass shootings, so now we need to have UBC's!

    A UBC with a simple thumbs-up or thumbs-down without any additional info would be the least they'd settle for, but we all know that a serial number and name is what they truly desire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    To me, "expanding a background check" means a UBC of some sort. While that's just in the batter's box for now, the little bite they'll take is expanding who can't get a gun (RFL, "hate crime" BS, etc.).

    Toe in water, see how hot it gets. Okay, that slid by with the citizens without much blowback and it didn't actually stop any mass shootings, so now we need to have UBC's!

    A UBC with a simple thumbs-up or thumbs-down without any additional info would be the least they'd settle for, but we all know that a serial number and name is what they truly desire.
    UBCs, and ultimately a ban on private firearms sales, is exactly what is meant by "Expanding Background Checks."

    And is when that alone doesn't work (and it won't) they'll start pleading for us to just compromise a little more and agree to a mandatory registry, because UBCs can't possibly work without a registry to enforce them...
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    Expanded could mean just adding more databases and making the data work better, but it could also mean other things.

    Listening (sparsely) to the dems last night talk about prison reform and immigration, you'd think the only crime that they want to prosecute is owning a gun...
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tx_Aggie View Post
    UBCs, and ultimately a ban on private firearms sales, is exactly what is meant by "Expanding Background Checks."

    And is when that alone doesn't work (and it won't) they'll start pleading for us to just compromise a little more and agree to a mandatory registry, because UBCs can't possibly work without a registry to enforce them...
    That is what I see coming at us.
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    Beto O'Rourke did more for us the other night than you might believe. Stating the "Hell yes I'am going to take your AK's and AR15's made it very clear that there can be no compromise, because he clearly wants confiscation.
    Any argument forward being only for that purpose simply means from the Conservative side, there can be no more compromises.

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