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Thread: Is a LaRue Quad Rail worth 250% more than a YHM Quad Rail?

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    I've only used two rails a Sure Fire M73 and now a Troy DI, both carbine length. I've never wanted to do any permanent modifications to my weapon or my issue weapon. I started looking for a QD sling swivel mount to add to my SF rail. I was frustrated after checking the internet including SF’s website for a
    Sling swivel to attach to the SF rail so I called Sure Fire about the female threads on their rail.
    I was surprised and disappointed to learn SF did not recommend using a sling on their rail at all and the threads were an addition that just dd not work out.

    I was disappointed until I found Troy. I love my Troy DI rail even with out the four screws installed it was very solid and their customer service was awesome. I bought the rail direct from Troy for ($149) less than I paid for the SF rail years ago. The addition of 4 QD mounts was awes some. I quickly became annoyed with the full 360 degree turning of the QD sling mount and the attached sling, My rifle rides in a rifle case 98% of the time and the sling is often screwed up when I go to take the weapon out. Enter the DD Omega rail for my new BCM midlength carbine, To me extra cost is an issue but the fact that my sling will be ready and in the correct position when I need it will be worth it. Until then a pair of RRA middy hand guards are on the rifle in the safe.

    I will keep the Troy rail, it is a good piece of equipment, I gave the SF rail to a buddy I work with. I love surefire lights and have used them since 1992 but if the company tells me I can not put a sling on their rail I'm not impressed with that product and would not recommend it to any one who wanted to mount a sling on their weapon with a rail system. This along with a light was the only reason I wanted a rail on my gun!

    Can any one tell me how far the DD will allow the QD sling mounts to spin?

    So I am not talking about a YHM rail vs. a LaRue rail but here but I agree you do get what you pay for. As long as you walk into your purchase with both eyes open and know what you are buying go for it.

    The information shared here on this site has saved me ass ache and money! I would not have known about the benefits of many items with out doing some reading here. If you do not want to hear what other people, some with strong opinions, have to say do not waste your time or ours.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuicideHz View Post
    Are most LaRue railed fore ends $50 cheaper than similar DDs or are you looking at a Lite rail compared to LT's standard rail?

    I had ONE YHM carbine free float rail. I could barely get anything to fit without forcing it. It was cheaply parkerized and it actually loosened up several times. Putting KAC panels on it was a joke. The edges were sharp and annoying and really fouled up the foam I custom cut in my starlight case.

    Remember, those that have tried more than a few rails will recommend many others over the YHM. Those that have only used YHM will of course talk about how happy they are to have their first railed fore end.
    I cannot speak to the experience you had with your YHM rail but I have had just the opposite. My rail is solid, everything fits on it, it is NOT sharp and I've had zero issues with it moving around.

    That said, DD and LaRue make fantastic products but everyone has to figure out for themselves if something "is worth it". To some, the DD / LaRue rail is more than worth it but to others like myself (I'm not an operator, I have 2 kids in private school, and I mainly use my AR for targets / IDPA side matches / etc) the YHM rail more than does the job.

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    Another in for LaRue.



    Granted the entire upper receiver is all LaRue, DMR 16". As a Texan I am glad that not only do I have a Texas company to support, but they make good kit.

    "Live free or die."

    Oh eventually I will add an Aimpoint with a LaRue mount, but currently I have dental work to worry about when it comes to money spent. Gotta take care of those chompers.
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    worth more? yeah. worth 250% more? no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by organdonor View Post
    worth more? yeah. worth 250% more? no.
    I tend to think most AR kit is overpriced, but that may be a function of being an old fart and feeling like everything is overpriced these days. Having had a YHM that I got rid of and a DD that I'll likely never get rid of, I for one feel like it's worth 2.5 times what one I'd never have again is. I'm sure the same would apply to the Larue if I were to get one. I do have a Larue Aimpoint mount and feel the same way about it vs. the GG&G I got rid of.

    I guess everything is relative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    I tend to think most AR kit is overpriced, but that may be a function of being an old fart and feeling like everything is overpriced these days. Having had a YHM that I got rid of and a DD that I'll likely never get rid of, I for one feel like it's worth 2.5 times what one I'd never have again is. I'm sure the same would apply to the Larue if I were to get one. I do have a Larue Aimpoint mount and feel the same way about it vs. the GG&G I got rid of.

    I guess everything is relative.
    larue makes quality products. my m4 used to sport a dd omega rail and it was a quality piece... $250, though? you are definitely paying some for their name when the little guys get everything done for less than half the price; albeit to a lower standard. i won't dissuade anyone from buying larue or troy or dd because you get what you pay for. that doesn't mean that i don't disagree with their pricing.

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    write down your needs/requirements. other than price, which rail meets more of those needs?

    weight, length, strength, installation, rigidity, size (diameter), etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by orionz06 View Post
    write down your needs/requirements. other than price, which rail meets more of those needs?

    weight, length, strength, installation, rigidity, size (diameter), etc...
    That is good advice.

    +1 on the LaRue aimpoint mount, love mine.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    I tend to think most AR kit is overpriced, but that may be a function of being an old fart and feeling like everything is overpriced these days. Having had a YHM that I got rid of and a DD that I'll likely never get rid of, I for one feel like it's worth 2.5 times what one I'd never have again is. I'm sure the same would apply to the Larue if I were to get one. I do have a Larue Aimpoint mount and feel the same way about it vs. the GG&G I got rid of.

    I guess everything is relative.
    Quote Originally Posted by organdonor View Post
    larue makes quality products. my m4 used to sport a dd omega rail and it was a quality piece... $250, though? you are definitely paying some for their name when the little guys get everything done for less than half the price; albeit to a lower standard. i won't dissuade anyone from buying larue or troy or dd because you get what you pay for. that doesn't mean that i don't disagree with their pricing.
    things are only worth what people will pay for them. i vaguely remember the sticker-shock i felt when i first got into ARs, and it's slowly just gotten more than more expensive every year. i'm so used to builds running in excess of $1500 that, these days, that's pretty much the minimum i expect to spend on a pretty basic carbine.

    every time a new innovative product comes out, the whole game gets a little more expensive.. a decade later, you look around and realize you have more invested in one platform than you put down on your house.

    larue handguards are actually not that expensive, comparatively speaking. some of DD's rails retail for over $400, and KAC's got some at over $500
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    Quote Originally Posted by S391 View Post
    I cannot speak to the experience you had with your YHM rail but I have had just the opposite. My rail is solid, everything fits on it, it is NOT sharp and I've had zero issues with it moving around.

    That said, DD and LaRue make fantastic products but everyone has to figure out for themselves if something "is worth it". To some, the DD / LaRue rail is more than worth it but to others like myself (I'm not an operator, I have 2 kids in private school, and I mainly use my AR for targets / IDPA side matches / etc) the YHM rail more than does the job.
    A friend of mine has YHC rails on his guns. Both are heavy, fat and the rails don't match up with the receiver rails in height. Personally I think they are crap. Yea they free float the barrel and stuff will mount on it. But their ergonomics are terrible.
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