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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    Seems odd having two threads
    Yep, probably should be merged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Ad Astra wants desperately to be deep, philosophical, profound, and existential, and it misses the market totally. This movie is a big mess with disjointed action scenes that are unrelated to the plot (shown if the trailers to get people to see it) which drags on and on through one implausible event after another. We get long internal monologues from Pitt on the meaning of existence his inability to form close relationships with people, and so forth.

    The visuals/CGI range from breathtakingly beautiful to cheesy and cheep looking. The build up to the grand finale at the outer reaches of the solar system so anti climatic I looked at my watch to see when this movie would end, and that's never a good sign.

    The all star cast does their best to make it work, and Pitt is always compelling when on screen, but none of them could save this movie from itself. Finally, and there's zero excuse for this in 2019, there was a lot of bad science in this movie all of which could have been avoided by consulting someone from NASA etc who are always happy to see good science being had in such movies.

    I had high hopes for this movie (and made the rare trip to a movie theater to see it...) but it as not to be. It's clear director James Gray was attempting to make this generations 2001. He failed and failed badly. Oh, and critics will love this movie cuz it makes them seem edgy and woke. C+

    Sad.

    Hollywood needs to learn you can't make "epic." You either achieve epic or you don't, it really can't be manufactured deliberately.

    I also hate "crap science" in science fiction, it's ruined more potentially great movies than bad special effects. That's one more lesson Hollywood can't seem to grasp.
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    Saw it tonight and enjoyed it. Not as good as I hoped but enjoyable nonetheless.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    Saw it tonight and enjoyed it. Not as good as I hoped but enjoyable nonetheless.


    Haters can hate


    Also kryptek mars camo is dope.


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    Sounds more like a DVD experience than a theater experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    ......there was a lot of bad science in this movie all of which could have been avoided by consulting someone from NASA etc who are always happy to see good science being had in such movies.
    Brad Pitt's space epic 'Ad Astra' sets 'new standard' for science fiction films, ex-NASA engineer says

    https://www.foxnews.com/science/brad...-nasa-engineer

    This has me curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMT Shooter View Post
    Brad Pitt's space epic 'Ad Astra' sets 'new standard' for science fiction films, ex-NASA engineer says

    https://www.foxnews.com/science/brad...-nasa-engineer

    This has me curious.
    Note the wording:

    "In my view, it sets a new standard for science fiction films, updating for all to see on the big screen some of the most fantastic imagery we have obtained of our solar system since films like '2001: A Space Odyssey' were released over 50 years ago," said Robert Yowell, who served as an engineer at NASA for 11 years and as a senior mission manager for SpaceX."

    Per above, some of the imagery is beautiful. Not really a spoiler, as one physicist wrote about the "To get to Neptune from Mars in 79 days, the average speed of the spaceship would have to be over 1,400,463 MPH. Maybe an ion thruster could achieve that, but it would take a huge amount of time to speed up and slow down because while ion engines have a huge top speed, they have extremely small amounts of thrust."

    It's clear they were using chemical rockets. There was no apparent crew quarters in that rocket, he they didn't apparently have enough fuel to return making it a one way suicide mission but there's no mention of that, so he uses a nuke to give him a nice little push off for home, using a freaking Neptune's rings shielded only with a space station panel, etc, etc The list is long. The science nerds I know are having a field day with all the bad science and I'm no physicist, but I was rolling my eyes all through this movie. Oh, and after a space monkey eats guys face, he used duct tape (yes duct tape) to cover the helmet opening and go into the vacuum of space with duct tape set up.

    Much of iy was not bad science per se, just totally implausible and double eye rolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LMT Shooter View Post
    Brad Pitt's space epic 'Ad Astra' sets 'new standard' for science fiction films, ex-NASA engineer says
    https://www.foxnews.com/science/brad...-nasa-engineer
    Thanks for posting that. It is certainly more credible than a review in my local indie rag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinN4 View Post
    Thanks for posting that. It is certainly more credible than a review in my local indie rag.
    It's accurate from the POV of the visuals being beautiful in some scenes. Note, no mention of the science from the NASA engineer. As they're all about promoting space travel, support for it, etc, they're not going to chit on the science issues generally. That usually happens with outside science nerds and is already being discussed. Tons of plot holes, stuff never explained, etc made it very difficult to just get immersed in the impressive visuals for me. Your mileage may differ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinN4 View Post
    Yep, probably should be merged.

    I combined the threads last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Ad Astra wants desperately to be deep, philosophical, profound, and existential, and it misses the market totally. This movie is a big mess with disjointed action scenes that are unrelated to the plot (shown if the trailers to get people to see it) which drags on and on through one implausible event after another. We get long internal monologues from Pitt on the meaning of existence his inability to form close relationships with people, and so forth.

    The visuals/CGI range from breathtakingly beautiful to cheesy and cheep looking. The build up to the grand finale at the outer reaches of the solar system so anti climatic I looked at my watch to see when this movie would end, and that's never a good sign.

    The all star cast does their best to make it work, and Pitt is always compelling when on screen, but none of them could save this movie from itself. Finally, and there's zero excuse for this in 2019, there was a lot of bad science in this movie all of which could have been avoided by consulting someone from NASA etc who are always happy to see good science being had in such movies.

    I had high hopes for this movie (and made the rare trip to a movie theater to see it...) but it as not to be. It's clear director James Gray was attempting to make this generations 2001. He failed and failed badly. Oh, and critics will love this movie cuz it makes them seem edgy and woke. C+

    Ugh--sounds like another pseudo-intellectual sci-fi that epitomizes over-promise and under-deliver. No thanks. Good detailed summary, was gonna see this in theater, but will wait until I can rent it on Vudu for $3.99--or they run it 'free with ads.'

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