Plausible optics for an M4 clone?

[chef8489]

I thought the Comp M3 was skipped for most military service? Seemed like it was the in between option no one selected.

It was . Used the comp m2 m68 then the m4 when they upgraded. Many units still use the m2.

[pinzgauer]

I'm a bit bemused by all the clone and homage posts...

Seems like first you have to decide are you building something mainstream or you allowing for SOCOM variants and individual variation?

Remember there was probably a thousand Joes and Marines carrying routine stuff for every cool guy.

Which most likely means M-68 and ACOGs, which is largely still true now. At least for Army line units.

Any variation with a Joe was just as likely to be something picked up at the PX or Ranger Joe's as some optimal carefully selected optic. I'll defer to the experts who were there on specific unit purchases.

An Aimpoint Comp M2 or pro is awfully close to an M-68. Inexpensive and a reasonable optic in its own right.

You have a little bit more money, same for the ACOG.

Put another way, either of those optics would not be out of place for many homage builds. But not having some of the other issue stuff (lasers, etc) typically used would be out of place.

I'll never do a clone, and the closest I get is wanting to have a reference'ish M4. Which for me is a largely box stock 6920 with a carry handle. I'll probably put a Colt 14.5" inch pinned barrel on it. If I can find an accurate rail that's not stupid expensive I'll probably do that as well.

To me it's a bit refreshing to shoot a box stock 6920 in an as issued form factor. They're just effective. Although my IN captain son has currently has no nostalgia interest, I am sort of preserving what he uses with line units in case that changes down the road. But if not, it's still fun to shoot. And surprise folks who are convinced you need a custom build with a ton of accessories to get hits.

I also regret not building a musket (A2) while issue parts were cheap and more available.

[Zane1844]

Get an M2 with a shitty stock mount, then get 550 cord and tie off anywhere.

[chef8489]

Get an M2 with a shitty stock mount, then get 550 cord and tie off anywhere.

Dont forget to take out the innards of the 550 and burn the ends.

[Diamondback]

I'm a bit bemused by all the clone and homage posts...

Seems like first you have to decide are you building something mainstream or you allowing for SOCOM variants and individual variation?

Remember there was probably a thousand Joes and Marines carrying routine stuff for every cool guy.

Which most likely means M-68 and ACOGs, which is largely still true now. At least for Army line units.

Any variation with a Joe was just as likely to be something picked up at the PX or Ranger Joe's as some optimal carefully selected optic. I'll defer to the experts who were there on specific unit purchases.

An Aimpoint Comp M2 or pro is awfully close to an M-68. Inexpensive and a reasonable optic in its own right.

You have a little bit more money, same for the ACOG.

Put another way, either of those optics would not be out of place for many homage builds. But not having some of the other issue stuff (lasers, etc) typically used would be out of place.

I'll never do a clone, and the closest I get is wanting to have a reference'ish M4. Which for me is a largely box stock 6920 with a carry handle. I'll probably put a Colt 14.5" inch pinned barrel on it. If I can find an accurate rail that's not stupid expensive I'll probably do that as well.

To me it's a bit refreshing to shoot a box stock 6920 in an as issued form factor. They're just effective. Although my IN captain son has currently has no nostalgia interest, I am sort of preserving what he uses with line units in case that changes down the road. But if not, it's still fun to shoot. And surprise folks who are convinced you need a custom build with a ton of accessories to get hits.

I also regret not building a musket (A2) while issue parts were cheap and more available.

Main point is, I'm trying for something you COULD plausibly see in a basic 0311's hands in the field, rather than the exotic "Cool Kids" stuff that most cloners want to build--as you say, "something picked up at the PX or Ranger Joe's" and paid for out-of-pocket as an improvised solution. I just saw a KAC M4 kit for $180 bucks or so, if I can figure out where I'll post it in Stick's deals-and-finds thread.

Sounds like ACOG, M2 or PRO it is--I was really hoping the PRO would work because 1. it's a lot more affordable while still Good2Go gear, 2. it sets a common spec across both builds minimizing the adjusting in case of an "oops wrong gun" moment and 3. I don't have to rip the optic off to transition to fixed irons and then fight with re-zeroing on reinstall.

[JediGuy]

Shameless plug: I know a guy with a CompM3 in the EE right now.

[chef8489]

Main point is, I'm trying for something you COULD plausibly see in a basic 0311's hands in the field, rather than the exotic "Cool Kids" stuff that most cloners want to build--as you say, "something picked up at the PX or Ranger Joe's" and paid for out-of-pocket as an improvised solution. I just saw a KAC M4 kit for $180 bucks or so, if I can figure out where I'll post it in Stick's deals-and-finds thread.

Sounds like ACOG, M2 or PRO it is--I was really hoping the PRO would work because 1. it's a lot more affordable while still Good2Go gear, 2. it sets a common spec across both builds minimizing the adjusting in case of an "oops wrong gun" moment and 3. I don't have to rip the optic off to transition to fixed irons and then fight with re-zeroing on reinstall.

YOu can take the pro and put it on a qrp mount and it will look identical to a m68 comp m2. YOu will get better battery life and get a 2 moa dot vs the 4 moa. No one will really know or can tell.

[chef8489]

double post..

[WickedWillis]

http://www.defensereview.com/tactica...rossover-part/

I guess I was not accounting for guys buying their own gear just whats been issued directly

[jsbhike]

Any of the Aimpoint 30mm ring mounted dots (and maybe even some Primary Arms/Holosuns) in a QRP mount (not QRP2, à la PRO and Comp M4) would look like a Comp M2/M-68 unless close enough to read it, and even that could be negated with spray paint.