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    AAR - Presscheck Consulting No Fail Pistol - 9/21-9/22/2019 - Carthage, NC

    Presscheck Consulting Ė No Fail Pistol
    Sept 21-22, 2019
    Carthage, NC Ė Trigger Time Range

    Instructor Background: 26-year US Army SOF Veteran
    Assistant Instructors: Active Duty types who shall remain nameless for PERSEC.

    What is this course about? Itís about testing and developing (and testing again) your ability to make high-risk, high-reward shots on demand. Accuracy, accuracy, accuracy. Iíve been to a half dozen or so classes now. I have never been challenged so much, especially with a handgun. Chuck has relevant, personal stories to share about employing a pistol that bring the material home. No hypotheticals. Actual proof.

    Prior to this class, I considered myself to be a good shooter. After this class, I have a lot of work to do. The program is proof that you donít know what you donít know. Be prepared to be humbled.

    Chuckís class runs long. Be prepared to have minimal time to jam mags, drink water and there will be very little time to BS. Chuck doesnít eat lunch. You might have 15 minutes to eat midday. Maybe. Day 1 is a solid 8 hours. Day 2 is at least 9 and it could go longer. Course minimum is at least 5 mags. You will need more, or you will slow the class down. Being able to just grab a fresh set of 5 at a time is huge. Jam mags at lunch and at the end of the day. I had about 20 G17 mags.

    Notes. I have havenít taken these many notes in a very long time. It was also the first time I felt the need to keep the notebook on the line with me, so I could take notes on the fly. You will miss things by the time you get back to benches, if that is your normal note taking style. This class is work. Itís not a buddyís trip. Itís not tactical fantasy band camp.

    I am not going to cover course content much, but I will say that you should be proficient shooting B8s at distance with both hands, and each hand by itself. The rest youíre going to have to pay Chuck for.

    At the end of each block of instruction, there is an evaluation. High shooter gets a patch. At the end of the course, there is also an evaluation combining all material covered. High shooter gets a patch, shirt, and some other cool stuff that Chuck has a bin of.

    Timers. Chuck uses them for a stimulus, not for a data point. He also used it for a par time on the final evaluation and that is what determined the winner because two shooters shot the exact same score. Time determined the winner. Donít expect to run speed bulls or Hat quals or bill drills. There is no gas pedal in this class. Itís not about speed. Be prepared to earn the right to shoot at the 7-yard line.

    Round Count = 900ish. I shot stock length mags. If you run extendos you will have a higher round count because he has you shoot drills and techniques by the mag. Have G19, you will shoot it 15 times. Have a 34 with +5s, youíll shoot it 22 times. Plan accordingly.

    What I would like to see different? I think this is ideally a 3-day class and I realize the necessities of it having to be a 2-day course.

    Who should take this class? Anyone who carries a gun for a living. Anyone who carries a gun for self-defense. Gamers who want to learn that the A-zone is just not good enough in a deadly force encounter. Anyone who wants to be able to make a shot count, the first time.
    Who should not take this class? This is not a class for new shooters. There is no general instruction. If the shooter cannot consistently shoot 80s+ on B8 from 25 yards freestyle, they will struggle from the beginning of the class.

    This course will prove to you the capabilities of pistol mounted RDS but thatís not to say that you must have a dot on your gun to do it. 3-4 of us shot irons only guns with success. Know your sights if youíre an iron sight shooter. I generally knew what my zero was with my HD XRs on the G17.5 but by the end of day 2 I was tired and fighting my sight picture.

    Fun asides:

    I ran the timer for Chuck on a demo run.
    I shot Chuckís Chambers Custom Nightfighter 2011. Itís absurdly accurate. I wore out the 10 and X ring from 25 yards without putting much effort in. ďMechanical advantage is real, yo!Ē as Chuck said. The class winner was also using a Chambers Nightfighter.
    Watching a shooter prep the DA trigger on a Beretta is painful to watch. That hammer moves so slow and there is soooo much travel to fire the gun.
    Chuckís hip went out at the end of day 2. And he still beat everyone in the class on the final eval. #Goals.

    Class Equipment:
    The winner had his RMR fail between day 1 and 2. Zero Shift of 8 inches at 25. He switched RMRs (yes he had a spare) after attempting a re zero on the old one and clearly went on to do well. I think that was the only issue for the class.

    A lot of Glocks, 2 of the 25 Nightfighterís made by Chambers were present. A couple Berettaís (one with an RMR), a Sig 320 living that .357 Sig life (I think it was the only non 9mm gun), atleast 1 M&P with a milled dot.
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    Thanks for the review, I really appreciate the style. Iím taking no fail in a few weeks.


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    Im hanging out with chuck for 4 days in 2 weeks. should be an awesome time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furbyballer View Post
    Im hanging out with chuck for 4 days in 2 weeks. should be an awesome time
    Nice. I really was hoping I could get off of work for the carbine course.


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