Impeachment

[ABNAK]

There is no witness in the world that could possibly "bring down Trump." Shoot somebody on Seventh Avenue? He could commit extraordinary carnal depravities in front of Trump Party senators, Christian evangelical leaders, and three-angle video, and not lose a single member of the Base. Donald Trump is a religion. We've seen this type of politician many times before. Just not in the United States of America.

How soon you forget the Mocha Jesus. It was only a few years ago.

[flenna]

The most entertaining part of this whole sham was when Pelosi made her opening remarks with tears in her eyes, saying what a heavy and prayerful heart it takes to do her Constitutional duty to press forward and do the will of the American people and that she doesn’t know what the outcome will be but knows POTUS is guilty as charged. Man, she ought to win an academy award for that performance.

[Uni-Vibe]

Sondland: due to testify publicly Wednesday. He might have to "revise" his earlier sworn statements again. The Wall Street Journal (!) has certain emails indicating that he was briefing Rick Perry and other highly-placed personages on the status of Ukraine's intent to "investigate" the Bidens. We'll see what comes about. Schifty Adam Schiff is a former federal prosecutor and smart trial lawyer; if there's anything useful, he'll know what to do.


The time has come -- and maybe already gone -- for Ambassador Sondland to decide whether he wants to be a witness or a target.



Key distinction in all of this mess: Trump never wanted Ukraine to investigate Hunter and Joe Biden. He wanted Ukraine to publicly announce that such an investigation was taking place, giving him and the conservative media something to talk about.

[armtx77]

Sondland: due to testify publicly Wednesday. He might have to "revise" his earlier sworn statements again. The Wall Street Journal (!) has certain emails indicating that he was briefing Rick Perry and other highly-placed personages on the status of Ukraine's intent to "investigate" the Bidens. We'll see what comes about. Schifty Adam Schiff is a former federal prosecutor and smart trial lawyer; if there's anything useful, he'll know what to do.


The time has come -- and maybe already gone -- for Ambassador Sondland to decide whether he wants to be a witness or a target.



Key distinction in all of this mess: Trump never wanted Ukraine to investigate Hunter and Joe Biden. He wanted Ukraine to publicly announce that such an investigation was taking place, giving him and the conservative media something to talk about.

Wrong, AGAIN.

Trump wanted them to look into 2016 election interference. Interference that UKRAINE HAS ADMITTED TO DOING. Chuck Grassley sent a letter to the DoJ in July of 2017. Asking them to open up an investigation into why the Ukrainians, had handed over this information to FSO nerds and it never made it back CONUS?

BECAUSE it destroys the premise of the Weisman report. You think Assange was picked up 3 days after the Weissman Report was released, was a coeincindence? Riddle me this Uni Vibe, can you tell us which of our 17 intelligence agencies reviewed the hacked DNC servers?

[Uni-Vibe]

I knew it! How many posts before somebody dredges up "Emails! . . . . Benghazi! . . . . Pizza Parlor . . . . 47 bodies . . . .Mom and Pop Shop Bathroom Server! . . . ."


Let's wait and see what's testified to Wednesday.

Sondland has had this weekend to make a decision. One writer says he has to choose between loyalty to Donald Trump, and loyalty to America.

I think he has a starker, but simpler choice: Truth, or Jail?

[armtx77]

The DNC hack, is the cornerstone of the Weissman Report. Mueller even said it and he wasnt not even involved in the report that has his name on it...anyway.

The SR DIRECTOR of the NSC, Tim Morrison, who was on the call. Has already said their was nothing there. A few bullet points:

1. Mr. Morrison did not believe anything improper occurred on the July 25 call. (p. 60)

2. Mr. Morrison testified that the memorandum of conversation (a phrase used to describe the call transcript) of the July 25 call was complete and accurate. (p. 60)

3. Mr. Morrison, who listened to the July 25 call, testified that he was not concerned about the substance of what was discussed on the call – only that the transcript might leak. (p. 46-47)

4. Mr. Morrison was told by National Security Council lawyer John Eisenberg that the July 25 call record mistakenly ended up on the highly classified system, debunking the Democrats’ allegations of an attempted “cover up.”

5. Mr. Morrison repeatedly testified that he purposefully kept Lt. Col. Vindman out of the loop on this matter because he had concerns about Vindman’s judgment, which were also raised to him by Fiona Hill and others.

6. Mr. Morrison testified that, as the final clearing authority for any edits made to the 7/25 call package, he accepted all of Lt. Col. Vindman’s proposed edits. (p. 61-62)

7. Mr. Morrison testified that he does not believe Burisma came up on the call or that anyone suggested edits to the mem-con to include the word Burisma. (p. 64)

8. Mr. Morrison testified that Lt. Col. Vindman relayed two concerns to him about the July 25 call: that the call did not get into the subject matter they had hoped, and the fidelity of the translation. (p. 72-73)

9. Mr. Morrison testified that Lt. Col. Vindman never reported to Morrison any of the “light queries” that he received from Ukrainian officials in August regarding the hold on aid. (p. 93)

10. Mr. Morrison confirmed that President Trump generally does not like foreign aid generally, and specifically held concerns that corruption in Ukraine may cause U.S. aid to be “misused.”

[mack7.62]

I knew it! How many posts before somebody dredges up "Emails! . . . . Benghazi! . . . . Pizza Parlor . . . . 47 bodies . . . .Mom and Pop Shop Bathroom Server! . . . ."


Let's wait and see what's testified to Wednesday.

Sondland has had this weekend to make a decision. One writer says he has to choose between loyalty to Donald Trump, and loyalty to America.

I think he has a starker, but simpler choice: Truth, or Jail?

All Sondland is going to do is keep telling the truth, no matter how much you wish your liberal fantasies will come true. Your hero Shitt is a lying sack of shit and you have been living in a dream world for 3 years. Guess you should be getting used to disappointment by now but keep grasping at straws.

[THCDDM4]

I knew it! How many posts before somebody dredges up "Emails! . . . . Benghazi! . . . . Pizza Parlor . . . . 47 bodies . . . .Mom and Pop Shop Bathroom Server! . . . ."


Let's wait and see what's testified to Wednesday.

Sondland has had this weekend to make a decision. One writer says he has to choose between loyalty to Donald Trump, and loyalty to America.

I think he has a starker, but simpler choice: Truth, or Jail?

^This sums it up right here. "Let's see..."

Nothing burger after nothing burger after nothing burger, but- "let's see what happens next..."

I must ask you directly- do you really buy into all of this? That there is going to be a credible witness that is a smoking gun?

This is a three ring circus, a dog and pony show. Bukkake theatre.

Here's some cold hard for ya'

The only good things about Trump:

1) Hilary didn't get into the oval office
2) 2 center left SCOTUS picks in lieu of 2 extreme progressive left SCOTUS picks
3) All the right people hate Trump and are showing there true colors
4) Wild card factor
5) He actually understands the real threat to America- illegal invasion- er, I mean Immigration.

All the rest doesn't effing mean squat. The tweets, the "pussy grabbing" the hair, the...NONE OF IT MATTERS!

If the man actually broke any laws and should really be impeached the DEMS are going about it in the most retarded way possible. Which is occurs razor for- they aint got shit (If they did it would drop post haste and how to get the bad orange man gone ASAP for them) and they are grandstanding, pushing all the small minded imbeciles to look at "Let's see what's next..." instead of what IS.

This is all going to end badly for America, not for Trump, not for the dimwitted Dems on Capitol Hill, but for America, because the precedent is being set and its a terrible one.

This, right here, what the democrats and their misguided, ill-intentioned angry sleeping sheep are doing- is the final nail in the coffin of our Nation as we know it.

Let that sink in for a moment- anything you can articulate and prove as "wrong" or "bad" or even "criminal" perpetuated by Trump & CO- is peanuts compared to what the D's are willfully doing here and now.

This is the greatest distraction of bread and circuses perpetuated on a citizenry in the history of the world. Instead of doing ANYTHING useful, these idiots are taking part int he biggest circle jerk in history- it's pathetic and even those who hate Trump should get their head out of their asses and smell the shit for what it is. It's disgusting.

So, yeah, "let's see what's next..." and when it isn't what is "wanted" let's just keep seeing what's next instead of actually tackling the important issues facing this country.

Wake up!

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This just in:


Let's just impeach everyone

Nolan Finley, The Detroit News Published 10:05 p.m. ET Nov. 16, 2019 | Updated 11:51 p.m. ET Nov. 16, 2019

If Washington, D.C. were held to biblical standards, it would be an ash heap.

Recall that God smoked Sodom and Gomorrah when Abraham couldn’t find 10 righteous men among the populace to meet His condition for sparing them.

Good luck filling that quota in the Capitol.

What we saw during last week's hearings confirms there are no white hats in this impeachment fight. No one purely motivated. And the only righteousness on display is self-righteousness.

Picking sides is a pointless exercise that serves to perpetuate the poisonous partisanship ruining our country. We should stop pretending there’s virtue on one side of this enterprise and evil on the other and accept the reality that two things can be true at once.

Donald Trump can be an immoral scoundrel who abused the power of the presidency in pressuring a foreign country to help take down a political rival. I believe that.

And Adam Schiff can be a scheming weasel who's had the impeachment papers on his desk for three years just waiting to fill in the blanks. I believe that, too.

I put nothing past Trump, the most dishonorable president ever to hold the office. His moral compass is without a needle. Even in this vulgar social media age, Trump’s coarseness is unacceptable for an American president.

Before rushing to your keyboard to fire off a “Yeah, but what about the economy …” email, I’ll admit, I’ve done quite well as an investor during the Trump years. But I suspect it’s possible for a president to cut taxes and regulations and boost the stock market without being an insufferable braggart and a serial offender of decency.

Still, I find myself trapped into defending Trump against the push by ruthless Democrats and their allies to take down an elected president by any means necessary. Trump has not been treated fairly. Nor was he ever given a chance to succeed. Democrats began their resistance movement on Inauguration Day, and talk of impeachment started before he switched on the lights in the Oval Office.

Worse, there's ample evidence that anti-Trump forces in the Justice Department worked to orchestrate a coup against the president.

Critics of Trump contend his actions present a constitutional crisis. But Trump has not defied checks on his overreaches by the courts. It is a constitutional crisis, however, when forces inside the government actively attempt to influence the outcome of a presidential election, and then work to undermine the president elected by the people.

And so unnecessary. No one undermines Trump more than Trump himself.

For either Republicans or Democrats to see their party as holding the high ground requires a lot of squinting. My solution would be a blanket impeachment that takes them all out.

This pox-on-all-their-houses wish stems from a conviction that we are nearing the point at which dysfunctional government becomes intractable, offering no hope of ever coming together to advance the nation past its many challenges.

Back to the Bible, what we may be witnessing are the end times of our Republic.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/op...nt/4203250002/

[glocktogo]

I knew it! How many posts before somebody dredges up "Emails! . . . . Benghazi! . . . . Pizza Parlor . . . . 47 bodies . . . .Mom and Pop Shop Bathroom Server! . . . ."

Let's wait and see what's testified to Wednesday.

Sondland has had this weekend to make a decision. One writer says he has to choose between loyalty to Donald Trump, and loyalty to America.

I think he has a starker, but simpler choice: Truth, or Jail?

You didn't get what you wanted out of Mueller.

You didn't get what you wanted out of Volker.

You didn't get what you wanted out of Yovanovitch.

You didn't get what you wanted out of Hill.

You didn't get what you wanted out of Kent.

You didn't get what you wanted out of McKinley.

You didn't get what you wanted out of Taylor.


What in the world could possibly make you think you're suddenly going to get what you need to depose Trump, out of Sondland? It's not like Congress can prosecute him and Barr is absolutely under no circumstances going to prosecute him! Barr is apparently going all out in an effort to prosecute the Obama Administration officials complicit in the 2016 election tampering by Ukraine.

What's going to happen is this. Schiff isn't going to get a smoking gun on "bribery" charges. His and Pelosi's gambit will ultimately come down to "obstruction" charges because he wouldn't allow them to politically curb stomp him with ZERO evidence. They'll get their political impeachment because this is really all they've wanted since November 2016. They never got anything out of their 2 1/2 year investigation (funny how that doesn't even come up anymore), and they can't find him guilty of something that never happened.

BUT, when it gets to the Senate the script will flip. McConnell will absolutely call Eric Ciaramella for public testimony. He will already have the proof needed to tie Ciaramella to the 2016 election conspiracy, because he was up to his eyeballs in it and Barr will have the documents to prove it. Once that thread is pulled, Ciaramella will either flip, or his benefactor will have him suicided in the back of the head during a robbery that no one will see.

Guess who else will be trotted onto the Senate floor? Stephen Halper; Josef Mifsud; Charles Tawil; "Azra Turk"; Sean Misko; and so on and so forth. Once the Senate finds Trump not guilty, he will be free to open a biblical can of whoop-ass on the traitors in his midst. Eventually one of them will flip and Brennan will finally be in the hot seat.

What the Obama Administration officials did in Ukraine, Italy, Greece, Israel and the UK in 2016 is as criminal as it gets. It was an international spy operation by US government officials against a major presidential candidate, which subsequently morphed into an operation to undermine the President of the United States. It is objectively orders of magnitude worse than Watergate.

The biggest mistake Trump has made in his presidency, is not sending every last Obama official in the WH packing, and demanding the resignations of every SES and SFS level official in DoS, DoJ and the Intelligence Community on his first day in office. Leaving them embedded in his Administration has been more damaging to the United States than any other blunder he's made.

But the bill is coming due and all that's left is to see who gets stuck with it. I'll wager now it will not be DJT.