Impeachment

[Grand58742]

Whether you agree or disagree, either of us can be right or wrong because you are right in that there is no precedent. My interpretation is that this House can sit on them until they think they have the votes and then send them. What I do not know is, can she wait until the next Congress? I do not know.

That's why I was saying the Senate needs to strike the first blow by having the Courts rule on the matter. If it's clear she's stonewalling for her own purposes, make her defend them in court. I'd be willing to bet there's a 9-0 vote on the SCOTUS to force the House to turn them over.

There is no time line on when they send them over. However, the Constitution is clear about the process. The Senate just has to tell the courts the House is holding up their duty and they are ready for the trial. She has no case after that.

[OH58D]

Not really. The President has still been impeached and must have a trial in the Senate as prescribed in the Constitution. However, when the Articles are sent over is not detailed in the Constitution and Pelosi has a small loophole in the law that allows her the opportunity to sit on them.

Democrats are only in favor of the law when it suits them. We know it's a partisan trick, she knows it's a partisan trick, the courts would know it's a partisan trick. However, if the Judicial Branch (read that as Chief Justice) forces her to hand them over, she has no option but to do so since it is her Constitutional duty.

Is there a shelf-life on a House of Representatives impeachment? In other words, a cut-off date?

[chuckman]

That's why I was saying the Senate needs to strike the first blow by having the Courts rule on the matter. If it's clear she's stonewalling for her own purposes, make her defend them in court. I'd be willing to bet there's a 9-0 vote on the SCOTUS to force the House to turn them over.

There is no time line on when they send them over. However, the Constitution is clear about the process. The Senate just has to tell the courts the House is holding up their duty and they are ready for the trial. She has no case after that.

To which I completely agree. The Senate doesn't even have to have a trial. They can just vote on day 1. This, I would like to see McConnell do this. "The articles of impeachment have been brought before the Senate. I feel as there is no evidence for a trial, we will hold a vote to acquit at this time."

Interestingly, impeachment supersedes all other Senate business: no spending bills, no legislation, no nothing.

[Diamondback]

Is there a shelf-life on a House of Representatives impeachment? In other words, a cut-off date?

One would assume that one House's unfinished business dies when it adjourns and the next convenes the same as un-voted bills, but Pelosi hasn't cared about precedent any other time so I wouldn't count on her playing by the rules there either. IANAL, though...

[OH58D]

Just read this on Breitbart:

Pollak: Senate Can Acquit Even If House Withholds Articles of Impeachment

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-constitution/

[Grand58742]

To which I completely agree. The Senate doesn't even have to have a trial. They can just vote on day 1. This, I would like to see McConnell do this. "The articles of impeachment have been brought before the Senate. I feel as there is no evidence for a trial, we will hold a vote to acquit at this time."

Interestingly, impeachment supersedes all other Senate business: no spending bills, no legislation, no nothing.

I'd like to see the court case on that.

"Why haven't you forwarded the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate?"

"We don't believe we'll get a fair trial."

"Okay, prove that..."

[Grand58742]

<sigh>

Speaking of crafty politicians running psyops on the US...

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...quit/23884165/

MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin called the U.S. impeachment process “far-fetched” Thursday, making a seemingly obvious prediction that Donald Trump will be acquitted in the Senate.

Putin said Thursday at his annual news conference in Moscow that the move is a continuation of the Democrats' fight against Trump.

“The party that lost the (2016) election, the Democratic Party, is trying to achieve results by other means," Putin said.

He likened Trump's impeachment to the earlier U.S. probe into collusion with Russia, which Putin downplayed as being groundless.

Putin noted that the impeachment motion "is yet to pass the Senate where the Republicans have a majority." He added that “they will be unlikely to remove a representative of their own party from office on what seems to me an absolutely far-fetched reason.”

Please STFU, Vlad.

[glocktogo]

What a mess. If they now sit on it, when they went full speed and cut corners during the actual impeachment- I don't know how that plays. Frankly, I go back to my original thinking at this is about making sure that Trump can't nominate someone to take over for RBG if she croaks- or maybe as a smoke screeen for when Durham comes out.

Do the articles die when this Congress ends? Could they hold onto to the impeachment until after Trump get inaugurated in January and try to remove him them, assuming that they take the Senate. Now that would be ugly.

Every day Pelosi doesn't send the Articles to the Senate, McConnell needs to publicly call her a coward. She's bitterly clinging to her Articles and she should pay dearly for it.

The whole process was disgusting yesterday. When the Democrats tried cheering over the first article and she shut them up, it really tipped their hand in a big way. That act alone showed they weren't doing it for Constitutional grounds, but rather partisan reasons which we all knew about.

That one excited utterance gave lie to her pathetic attempts to paint it as a "somber" event they hated to do. She's a bald faced liar and got caught when she gave them the death stare for outing her.

Whether you agree or disagree, either of us can be right or wrong because you are right in that there is no precedent. My interpretation is that this House can sit on them until they think they have the votes and then send them. What I do not know is, can she wait until the next Congress? I do not know.

If she holds them through the election next year, she will absolutely cease to be Speaker of the House. You can take that to the bank.

Is there a shelf-life on a House of Representatives impeachment? In other words, a cut-off date?

Yes, it's January 3rd, 2021. That's when the 116th United States Congress session ends. Any business not completed by that date is effectively dead.

[Firefly]

This whole farce was merely a Bandying of Whores

[jpmuscle]

This whole farce was merely a Bandying of Whores

“Wenches” sounds more merry.


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