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    Quote Originally Posted by rero360 View Post
    So I finally got around to watching Taxi Driver after reading what you guys have to say about it, comparing it to Joker. I really didn’t care for it, I know it’s a classic and one of DeNiro’s first films but the dialogue was off, like film school disjointed and awkward. Joker was much better in my opinion.
    Victim of time and place, even The French Connection no longer has the "impact" it once did. At the time they were two of the most red meat movies ever made, now you have to watch them as the period films they are.

    I remember everyone talking about Mean Streets and how it was the greatest gangland movie ever made, I've never been so bored in my life and it was a Scorsese film. Give it another couple decades and people will talk about how Goodfellas was kinda slow and boring. Godfather only holds up because it was never intended as an "action" film and it's full of what are now called easter eggs.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    But is he really the villain though?




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    Good question man.

    I really enjoyed this movie, will see it a second time now I better understand he was not really living out all the scenes.
    Last edited by the AR-15 Junkie; 10-12-19 at 10:15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_War_Wagon View Post
    Just so you KNOW... when they come to take y'all's guns for talking about this movie...

    Guns seized from Washington man after 'concerning Twitter posts' over new 'Joker' movie
    Was this a legitimate issue,
    Or was this a “when the zombie virus comes, you two bastards are the first guys I’m shooting in the head” joke kind of thing.

    In the same way gun laws are meant to be applied to certain types and blown off for others,
    So go red flag laws.
    “Where weapons may not be carried, it is well to carry weapons.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramairthree View Post
    Was this a legitimate issue,
    Or was this a “when the zombie virus comes, you two bastards are the first guys I’m shooting in the head” joke kind of thing.

    In the same way gun laws are meant to be applied to certain types and blown off for others,
    So go red flag laws.
    Ok what? Nah dude


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    Quote Originally Posted by .223Pound View Post
    And The BS begins.
    Could you be more specific?

    Is there a legitimate batch of guys that saw this movie and are moved to violence and getting red flagged?

    Or is this the media dying for links to this movie and gun violence?

    There is a distinct lack of response to threats of some gun violence based on the political motivations of the threateners.
    “Where weapons may not be carried, it is well to carry weapons.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramairthree View Post
    Could you be more specific?

    Is there a legitimate batch of guys that saw this movie and are moved to violence and getting red flagged?

    Or is this the media dying for links to this movie and gun violence?

    There is a distinct lack of response to threats of some gun violence based on the political motivations of the threateners.
    You lost all credibility by referencing “gun violence”.


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    I think the film is art but at the same time it’s just a movie.

    If a movie is all it takes to show us how stupid we’ve become as a society to push on with this Orwellian BS then it says more about US and the bullshit we’ve let slide than it does anything else

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramairthree View Post
    Could you be more specific?

    Is there a legitimate batch of guys that saw this movie and are moved to violence and getting red flagged?

    Or is this the media dying for links to this movie and gun violence?

    There is a distinct lack of response to threats of some gun violence based on the political motivations of the threateners.
    https://komonews.com/news/local/seve...or-joker-movie

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    You lost all credibility by referencing “gun violence”.


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    I’m still not getting the point.
    People use guns to hunt and kill animals, defend themselves, defend other people and LE officers and military, commit robberies, commit terrorist acts, etc.
    And then some weird category where someone just decides to kill a bunch of people for no criminal gain, no political reason, etc.

    Legal or not, those all seem to have some intended purpose except the last category.

    When it fits a narrative or control the media and progressives want spun in their favor, its “gun violence”, a public health crisis, an epidemic, or some other spin.

    So I’m not sure what asking if a movie they don’t like is causing them to do backflips to negatively link it “gun violence” does credibility wise.
    “Where weapons may not be carried, it is well to carry weapons.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramairthree View Post
    I’m still not getting the point.
    People use guns to hunt and kill animals, defend themselves, defend other people and LE officers and military, commit robberies, commit terrorist acts, etc.
    And then some weird category where someone just decides to kill a bunch of people for no criminal gain, no political reason, etc.

    Legal or not, those all seem to have some intended purpose except the last category.

    When it fits a narrative or control the media and progressives want spun in their favor, its “gun violence”, a public health crisis, an epidemic, or some other spin.

    So I’m not sure what asking if a movie they don’t like is causing them to do backflips to negatively link it “gun violence” does credibility wise.
    I think the objection is because the media and progressives don't just use the term "gun violence" to describe mass shootings, and because it's a term that has been and continues to be used to deliberately mislead the public.

    The entire point of the term is to conflate all gun deaths as "violence"; to imply that violence involving a gun is somehow worse than, and also more preventable than, other types of violence; and to suggest that the cause of said violence is the gun and not the person perpetrating it.

    But I also think you get that, and maybe you guys don't actually disagree at all.
    Last edited by Tx_Aggie; 10-19-19 at 12:13.

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