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    Match 9mm ammo ?

    I have been shooting Blazer and Magtech ammo in local matches. Im told it is some of the hottest factory ammo. Who makes some 9mm with lower velocities ? I don't care if it 115, 124 or 147 but probably prefer 124gr.

    Any help appreciated.

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    Federal Syntech 150 gr


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    I have been shooting Blazer and Magtech ammo in local matches. Im told it is some of the hottest factory ammo. Who makes some 9mm with lower velocities ? I don't care if it 115, 124 or 147 but probably prefer 124gr.

    Any help appreciated.

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    Who told you that Magtech and Blazer are some of the hottest 9mm ammo? They must only shoot .380 and .32. Chronograph doesn't lie. Those two ammo are average range ammo, not hot at all. Their velocities average just under 1100 fps.

    Some of the top notch professional competitive shooters are sponsored by Atlanta Arms. Match ammo are not cheap, beware.

    Here is one of their offerings:

    https://atlantaarms.com/products/pro...47gr-fmj-html/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    I have been shooting Blazer and Magtech ammo in local matches. Im told it is some of the hottest factory ammo. Who makes some 9mm with lower velocities ? I don't care if it 115, 124 or 147 but probably prefer 124gr.
    For standard 115 (no +P, etc) out of a G17

    Blazer (Al) is the hottest I have shot, at 1225 fps.

    UMC is around 1125.

    Of course, if low velocity is what you want, 165 grain would be the ticket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsllc View Post
    Federal Syntech 150 gr


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    Going off manafacturer's specs, definitely not the hottest stuff.
    All the first numbers are the manafacturer's. The YT number are from Buffman Range's on YouTube. Should at least give you an idea what a few loads are doing.
    For the lower end of the spectrum, I tend to like the Federal Champion and UMC, but since the only real place I ever saw them, at least for money I wanted to pay, was WalMart, I won't be getting any more any time soon. I've also shot a fair bit of the Magtech 124 and S&B 124 in my M9 and they're really mild shooting, too.
    I err toward buying S&B, Fiocchi, or Geco most of the time because they usually are priced the best from the suppliers I buy from.

    If you specifically want lower velocity, buy the heavier end of the bullet spectrum. Probably the mildest shooting of what I've shot at least, is the S&B 124.

    Magtech 115 gr - 1135 - YT 1090 (3.6") 1200 (5")
    Magtech 124 gr - 1110 - YT 1150 (4.5")
    Blazer Brass 115 gr - 1145
    UMC 115 gr - 1145
    Federal Champion 115 gr - 1125
    Sellier & Bellot 115 gr - 1280 (5" barrel) - YT 1100 (3.6"), 1180 (5")
    Sellier & Bellot 124 gr - 1180 (5" barrel) - YT 1025 (3.6"), 1100 (5")
    Fiocchi 115 gr - 1200 - YT - 1150 (4"), 1200 (5")
    American Eagle 115 gr - 1180 - YT 1150 (4.5")
    American Eagle 124 gr - 1150 -
    Aguila 115 gr - 1150 - YT 1060 (3.6"), 1150 (5")
    Geco 124 gr - 1180
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    Winchester has a 147gr 9mm loading marked "Training" that is pretty soft shooting, around 950 fps IIRC. There are several other 147gr Subsonic loads available commercially that come in around the same velocity.

    None of it will be as cheap as 115gr though.

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    Papabear,

    Are you concerned about felt recoil or accuracy?

    As mentioned the 147gr bullets will, in general, be softer shooting. The downside is slower cycling, which may be an issue in getting back on target in some games.
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    Except at extremes, I haven't found velocity to be particularly useful at predicting recoil attributes and "shootability". Two cartridges of the same bullet weight and chrono'ed velocity can be different in recoil and POI. One example off the top of my head is the Speer Lawman 53620 and the legacy Federal AE9FP.

    "Match" ammo would need to be defined, accuracy spec, if you want to hit a certain power factor, etc. Easiest thing to do is buy a box of everything you have access to and find something you like. The problem with that is a load may not be the same between lots, or even within a given lot in some places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ST911 View Post
    Except at extremes, I haven't found velocity to be particularly useful at predicting recoil attributes and "shootability". Two cartridges of the same bullet weight and chrono'ed velocity can be different in recoil and POI. One example off the top of my head is the Speer Lawman 53620 and the legacy Federal AE9FP.

    "Match" ammo would need to be defined, accuracy spec, if you want to hit a certain power factor, etc. Easiest thing to do is buy a box of everything you have access to and find something you like. The problem with that is a load may not be the same between lots, or even within a given lot in some places.
    Great post. Where's the like button?

    It sounds like the reasons above are why a lot of pistol shooters end up reloading, more than any sort of cost savings. Do you load 9mm?

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