Originally Posted by
lsllc
Dude, I get it and I see it every day. Suffering, dying, it’s all part of living. Dogs aren’t human beings. Dogs are property.
You’re suggestion “giving him a cocktail and going to sleep” IS murder is correct. And your suggestion is to shift that act, that death into the conscious of another human being, which is not only selfish as f*ck, it’s unethical and creates a whole litany of psychological problems for those responsible for designing, producing, and dispensing said cocktail.
Look, I’m sorry your dad suffered. I truly am. I’ve seen the same thing too many times to count. I completely get it. But you’re coming off as the idealist who wants to “do something” even if it’s wrong. You’re like the “Everytown” groups who want all guns banned unless there are zero murders with guns, despite unintended consequences. I get it, you’re emotional. It sucks. It hurts. But suffering is part of life and what you’re asking for is others to violate their oaths and their ethics, and you’re certain this is the only way, consequences for others be damned.
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So we aren't gonna agree on a lot of things.
Dogs aren't property, it is life and life that I've accepted responsibility for so I need to make sure I do everything that is my responsibility.
Also you seem to be deliberately misconstruing what I'm saying. I specifically stated no doctor should be required to assist as it violates their basic oath. I'm stating the know how and method should be provided to me, I'll take responsibility for someone like my father. I'll take responsibility for my loved ones.
The ONLY thing I'm saying is that such a thing shouldn't be considered a crime. That is not emotion, that is me stating people should have the right to end their life when quality of life is gone. There is no reason to make them run out the clock and suffer.
And if such a thing were no longer a crime, then it would be legal under the right conditions for me to obtain all the things that are necessary to achieve a humane and as pain free as possible drug cocktail just like any other legal script.
I understand that you disagree with this premise, although I don't know why anyone would think terminal patients should have to suffer until the end.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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