Cartel battle in Mexico

[NWPilgrim]

A- How do you ID cartel members on sight? Does it work anything like ID'ing a member of al-Qaeda or ISIS or Democratic party on sight?

2- Mexico is already our ward. Has been since the US decided that Pancho Villa wasn't real cool.

It looked fairly obvious in the video. M2 mounted technical shooting at the police? Obviously you can’t identify every cartel member on sight. But cut me a break, do not our police and FBI, DEA, etc not already know the identity of many cartel members? Are you saying we are working from scratch and we have no clue who in the US belongs to MS13, Sinaloa, etc?

What I am suggesting is that once we declare a group like MS13 as a organized criminal terrorist organization then we go hunting the known members. Not to arrest but to kill. Some of them even advertise their affiliation I’m told.

And yes I think we do know some of the members of AQ and ISIS, no? Maybe even use spies, drones, electronic surveillance. You know terrorist hunting type stuff. Or is that all new to us?

You seem to like to play the contrarian, but sometimes it gets petty, grasping for something to criticize. Most here are trying to mull around better ideas. The war on drugs is a hugely expensive abysmal failure. And cartels are many times more powerful today than when the WoD started 40 years or so ago. Your ratio of criticism to ideas offered is high side.

[Diamondback]

It looked fairly obvious in the video. M2 mounted technical shooting at the police? Obviously you can’t identify every cartel member on sight. But cut me a break, do not our police and FBI, DEA, etc not already know the identity of many cartel members? Are you saying we are working from scratch and we have no clue who in the US belongs to MS13, Sinaloa, etc?

What I am suggesting is that once we declare a group like MS13 as a organized criminal terrorist organization then we go hunting the known members. Not to arrest but to kill. Some of them even advertise their affiliation I’m told.

And yes I think we do know some of the members of AQ and ISIS, no? Maybe even use spies, drones, electronic surveillance. You know terrorist hunting type stuff. Or is that all new to us?

THIS. We start responding to Salvatruchas tats like Wyatt Earp to red sashes.

[1168]

It looked fairly obvious in the video. M2 mounted technical shooting at the police? Obviously you can’t identify every cartel member on sight. But cut me a break, do not our police and FBI, DEA, etc not already know the identity of many cartel members? Are you saying we are working from scratch and we have no clue who in the US belongs to MS13, Sinaloa, etc?

What I am suggesting is that once we declare a group like MS13 as a organized criminal terrorist organization then we go hunting the known members. Not to arrest but to kill. Some of them even advertise their affiliation I’m told.

And yes I think we do know some of the members of AQ and ISIS, no? Maybe even use spies, drones, electronic surveillance. You know terrorist hunting type stuff. Or is that all new to us?

You seem to like to play the contrarian, but sometimes it gets petty, grasping for something to criticize. Most here are trying to mull around better ideas. The war on drugs is a hugely expensive abysmal failure. And cartels are many times more powerful today than when the WoD started 40 years or so ago. Your ratio of criticism to ideas offered is high side.

Yes, the bad guys make themselves rather obvious in the video. Yes, I’m certain that we know the names and locations of a few cartel guys, thats assuming they wouldn’t go underground if open season was declared.

But its not always so easy. Do you have any experience hunting “terrorists”, aka Whack-a-Mole?

[Firefly]

These are just Julios with guns. Not that dangerous in the cosmic sense. Killing them and blowing them up would feel good. Really good.

But it wouldn’t change anything.

The money. There’s where you castrate them.

The money. But if we did that then too many of our elected and appointed bureaucrats would suffer financially and we simply cannot have that

[WillBrink]

These are just Julios with guns. Not that dangerous in the cosmic sense. Killing them and blowing them up would feel good. Really good.

But it wouldn’t change anything.

The money. There’s where you castrate them.

The money. But if we did that then too many of our elected and appointed bureaucrats would suffer financially and we simply cannot have that

Addressing the supply/demand side is the only way that will ever happen, and economics 101 finds where there's demand, there's supply, laws irrelevant. As you allude to, the failed war on drugs keeps too many in the $ on all sides to ever really be altered in any meaningful way.

[Firefly]

For all interested,

If you’ve ever done any real Drug Enforcement they sit you down and you watch Traffic before you get to play with black kit, UMPs, and killhouses(oh I’m sorry—SHOOThouses).

It’s about 3 hours long and yes it’s Hollywood but also explains why this is pointless at the National level and get you in the mindset that you are merely pretending to accomplish anything.

There are always going to be hungry, barefoot kids willing to die or go to jail over plant extract. It’s all horridly morally ambiguous. And it will lead to a lot of self loathing.

Sicario was a comic book but it was fun because I like Ben del Toro and the part with the Solid Snake pistol.

But Traffic is like Bible prophetic

[The_War_Wagon]

Yes. But it’s more fun to blame and shoot other people than blame and shoot ourselves.

When the bounty on Anqueefa is upped to $50/ear, that'll change.

[Firefly]

When the bounty on Anqueefa is upped to $50/ear, that'll change.

Are you implying ear necklaces?

Please be implying ear necklaces

[LoboTBL]

Are you implying ear necklaces?

Please be implying ear necklaces

What's it gonna be? Crucifixions or ear necklaces? You cannot have both.

[Firefly]

What's it gonna be? Crucifixions or ear necklaces? You cannot have both.

Yes I can