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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    The real poll is how many people think that they will fight in a civil war.
    Since you mentioned it.....the Left has planned to have someone else do their bidding under color of authority and force of arms. The Right, who just basically want to be left alone to their devices (and evil guns) will be forced to do their own bidding if it came to that. God forbid it ever come to that but difficult circumstances lead people to make difficult decisions, and I don't mean whether to make a stand or not but instead who to target. Yep, if things go south enough (and I truly hope it never does) "civility" and "off limits" will be thrown to the wayside. If someone is being crushed under the weight of a jackboot don't be surprised when specific loud-mouthed individuals, politicians, even those tasked with enforcing such egregious edicts have to look over their shoulders constantly......and their families. Yes, internecine conflicts are the most cutthroat, devious, dastardly struggles known to man. A foreign enemy is to be overcome and snuffed out. A fellow countryman who has betrayed that common kinship and would have you killed or imprisoned is to be dealt with in a particularly vicious manner, to include those around him.

    Let us hope things never get that bad.

    If I had to bet though, I'm 54 and don't think I'll see it in my lifetime. To be sure, I won't be disappointed if I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    The real poll is how many people think that they will fight in a civil war.
    I think that will largely depend on how it starts - the actual precipitating act that starts the whole thing rolling. I also think you won't know until you know, if you get my thought.
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    Hell, I'm 39 and while I hope I'm wrong, I know the Left well enough from growing up among them to know that they're not gonna stop until either they get a New Soviet Union or they poke the bear one time too many and get curbstomped into a smear on the history-book pages... and even if the Time for Choosing a Side isn't forced upon us within my generation's lifetimes it will probably be our children's, at the very latest grandchildren's, cross to bear. God help them.
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    We are already in a Cold Civil War. All it's going to take is a contested Presidential election with no clear winner, but evidence of massive voter fraud and other illegal activities to go hot. Toss in an unhappy electorate starting localized vandalism and violence, then martial law gets called in bigger cities with the problems. Then the shooting starts, still localized but all over the Country. Politicians will be hard to find since they will be hiding behind the walls of their secure residences with guards.
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    Hell, I'm 39 and while I hope I'm wrong, I know the Left well enough from growing up among them to know that they're not gonna stop until either they get a New Soviet Union or they poke the bear one time too many and get curbstomped into a smear on the history-book pages... and even if the Time for Choosing a Side isn't forced upon us within my generation's lifetimes it will probably be our children's, at the very latest grandchildren's, cross to bear. God help them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    To expound a bit, red states have blue areas. Blue states have red areas. It basically breaks down into rural vs urban. Rural areas are almost always more conservative while urban areas are always more liberal....
    Conservative / Libertarian rural areas grow nearly all the food for leftist urban centers. One of the things they’d have to do, as they did during the soviet revolution, is seize farmland. Rural folks can self sustain, but urban cannot.

    I agree with and count myself among the 7/10 that think the boogaloo is coming, but I also hope and pray that I’m in the 8/10 that are able to stay out of it . . . . Suffer evils while they remain sufferable.

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    I'm 55 and I distinctly remember having this conversation with a dear (and now departed) friend of mine almost 30 years ago. I told him that there would be another civil war in our lifetime and he told me I was out of my mind. I added that we'd probably be too old to be involved in any of it but we'd see it happen. I wish he was still here, not so much so I could tell him 'I told you so', but because we were truly as close as brothers.

    I also share your feelings about it Mozart.
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    If we're gonna boogaloo, let's boogaloo.

    Me and all my friends were well trained in counter insurgency. Flip that coin over and you have extremely effective insurgents. The American Taliban will be the stuff movies are made about (one way or another).

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    I'm not 100% positive that we will see a civil war in my lifetime, but I am 100% positive that there is no way to reverse the course this country is on currently.

    How can a nation survive having such a large population of its people opposed to one another, both morally and politically, to such an extent without imploding and fracturing?

    I certainly don't want a civil war. I'm 29 years old. I'm married to the woman of my dreams, and have two daughters, two years old and four years old, who mean the world to me. There are things I want, but admittedly I can't think of anything I need as I have that already. I want my children to grow up in a nation with more freedom and opportunities than the one I grew up in. The thought of this country falling apart during my childrens lives sickens me..

    but..

    We have people mutilating their childrens genitalia, killing their babies at or near full term out of convenience, and forcing their sexual orientation on their children and being applauded for it.

    We have politicians infringing on our rights on multiple fronts, threatening to make the law abiding felons overnight, ballooning our national debt with pointless programs and government expansion, letting illegal aliens and foreign invaders enter our country freely, and desperately trying to throw the elected president out of office.

    We have news media, social media, big tech companies, etc.. all working in unison to controll information flow in an attempt to manipulate public perception and in essence change the moral and political landscape of the country.

    We have an education system not designed to help our children become young adults and contributing members of society, but instead designed to indoctrinate them into the religion that is leftist ideology.

    and the list goes on..

    At what point does a person decide violence is the answer? I'd say about the time comfortable subjugation is replaced with uncomfortable persecution.

    Depending on who you ask, we've already reached that point, or have at best been beating on that door for a while now.

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