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Thread: Change my mind: a hybrid comp is the best general purpose muzzle device

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    Well there is some data out there from people who have done testing. Let’s look at the numbers from the truth about guns.

    Recoil reduction is based off of a bare muzzle. Lux rating off of a bare muzzle is over 10K

    A2 Flash hider
    Recoil Reduction: 8.08%
    Lux: 0.48

    BCM Comp
    Recoil Reduction: 33.08%
    Lux: 0.60

    Griffin Armament Flash Comp
    Recoil Reduction: 52.49%
    Lux: 1.36

    KAC MAMS
    Recoil Reduction: 52.76%
    Lux: 1.87

    BattleComp 2.0
    Recoil reduction: 55.68%
    Lux: 1.41

    It looks like the BCM is much closer to the A2 as far as flash hiding performance but offers better recoil reduction.
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    Any numbers for the higher quality flash hiders?

    Also, aren’t lux a function or lumens, which are exponent?

    That would be to say, that .48 v .60 lux isn’t simply 25% brighter?


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    Lux for the AAC blackout and the Smith vortex are .35 and .37 respectively, no numbers on recoil reduction but im assuming it’ll be close to the A2 if not less.

    Quote Originally Posted by lsllc View Post
    Any numbers for the higher quality flash hiders?

    Also, aren’t lux a function or lumens, which are exponent?

    That would be to say, that .48 v .60 lux isn’t simply 25% brighter?


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    Last edited by VIP3R 237; 11-08-19 at 17:28.
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    Literally the last time I shot a gun was in the dark, and the fireball from the muzzle was awe inspiring. Brakes belong under suppressors. Change my mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    I've noticed people pushing flash hiders pretty hard lately, and I can't figure out a good reason why. Hybrid devices such as the BCM comp, WarComp, and to a lesser extent Battle Comp, are superior for a GP rifle, not a flash hider. Here's why: most people don't shoot in the dark, and if they do, its pretty rare. Also, if they do, its even more rare that they're in a contested environment where bad guys would shoot back at them without signature reduction. Any level of recoil reduction will be far more beneficial than flash suppression in the majority of circumstances. Hybrid comps provide some level of recoil reduction without producing an obnoxious fireball and concussion like dedicated brakes. And while they are more blasty to stand next to, they're rarely of significant inconvenience.

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    Comps/brakes without a can quickly diminish the output of your devices.

    No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by contax_shooter View Post


    Comps/brakes without a can quickly diminish the output of your devices.

    No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsllc View Post
    Any numbers for the higher quality flash hiders?

    Also, aren’t lux a function or lumens, which are exponent?

    That would be to say, that .48 v .60 lux isn’t simply 25% brighter?


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    Quote Originally Posted by vicious_cb View Post
    I've went through all 17 pages of this thread and I still don't understand the point of it. If you can't make the executive decision to find the balance of flash and blast vs muzzle control then you probably should just stick with an A2 and focus on putting more rounds through your gun until you can get to the point where mechanical advantage would be decernable to you.
    Very good point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsllc View Post
    Any numbers for the higher quality flash hiders?

    Also, aren’t lux a function or lumens, which are exponent?

    That would be to say, that .48 v .60 lux isn’t simply 25% brighter?


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    In addition to the links provided above, this may be useful:

    https://vuurwapenblog.com/reviews/ar...ce-comparison/
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    It's almost uncanny how little flash is put out by the JP Enterprises flash hider.
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