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Thread: Change my mind: a hybrid comp is the best general purpose muzzle device

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    On anything longer than 14.5 I prefer the hybrid comps, anything shorter needs a suppressor or flash hider.

    Fundamentals are everything obviously, and I’m sure some of the better shooters here could wipe the floor with me using a bare muzzle vs me running a race brake. However I like the quicker follow ups and spotting my impact at longer ranges.

    Most hybrid comps I’ve used (mams, Bc, bcm, Griffin) aren’t throwing huge fireballs like some are saying. Yes they are more than an A2 but not massively so. Blast is also more but nothing like an open port brake, although the BCM is more blasty than the other mentioned, I’ve also noticed the A2 is more blasty than most dedicated flash hiders, and in junkyard prone it kicks up a good amount of crap just like any device besides a suppressor or flash can.

    I also prefer them as a suppressor host as they act as a sacrificial baffle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    I run a BRT Covert Comp on my 11.3" 5.56 and get soccer-ball sized flash from it with a variety of ammunition...
    Oh? The muzzle flash of my brother's Covert Comp was barely noticeable, even as it got dark. He also has an XM177 clone that has a "moderator" that's designed to be a linear comp. With one batch of ammo, the XM177 gave a long, narrow column of flame. Through the Covert Comp, it was barely noticeable. The A2 on a 10.5 or 11.5 barrel throws a good sized fireball.

    I would be using the Forward Control 6315 on my SOCOM, but I haven't been able to convince Roger to make one long enough to use to pin & weld a 14.5" barrel to 16".

    Anyone who thinks a flash hider on an AR is useless to a civilian, doesn't get out to shoot early enough in the day and packs up and goes home too soon.
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    I chose the Covert Comp for directing blast away. I've not compared flash with it. I would honestly expect more flash from it than an A2 style hider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffy View Post
    If you like the A2, you'll like the 6315.

    Based on the A2 TDP, we made the 3 and 9 o'clock ports shorter and smaller to force more gas to be expelled through the upward facing ports. 6315's 20% better comp performance is "free", in that it's obtained without compromises such as more flash, noise and concussion.

    I have a bunch of these and I like them, but I really rather have an A1 version with the slots all the way around... I might be the only one though.

    Other than that the Smith Vortex G6A4 is my absolute favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsllc View Post
    The fireball is not necessarily something I want in a lowlight defensive situation. Granted it’s not the end of the world either.

    The added sound signature from a comp is a real thing during a defensive situation. It can be disorienting and downright painful in the instance I’m unable to donn ear protection.

    Additionally, the gas diversion can cause debris to become a problem in some situations; gravel, dust, other debris, etc.

    Finally, if I put one on every rifle I train with, I’m out serious money.
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    Anyone who thinks a flash hider on an AR is useless to a civilian, doesn't get out to shoot early enough in the day and packs up and goes home too soon.
    Yep.

    Quote Originally Posted by VIP3R 237 View Post
    Most hybrid comps I’ve used (mams, Bc, bcm, Griffin) aren’t throwing huge fireballs like some are saying. Yes they are more than an A2 but not massively so.
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    Comps are not my thing, and definitely not brakes. I can not see any real difference with the comps I have tried.

    Most of my rifles have 3 prong on the end of them because that is what my can mounts to. And the can does the best job at reducing flash and mitigating the recoil.

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    Comps are not my thing, and definitely not brakes. I can not see any real difference with the comps I have tried.

    Most of my rifles have 3 prong on the end of them because that is what my can mounts to. And the can does the best job at reducing flash and mitigating the recoil.

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    Does muzzle flash really screw with you that much though? Like I said, I have minimal low light time, but most of it has been with BCM comps. I was never blinded by the light, and again, most of us aren't discussing this in the context of fighting the rooskies and trying to mask signature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    Does muzzle flash really screw with you that much though? Like I said, I have minimal low light time, but most of it has been with BCM comps. I was never blinded by the light, and again, most of us aren't discussing this in the context of fighting the rooskies and trying to mask signature.
    You could ask the same question about recoil/muzzle movement.

    Blast/concussion is more important to me than either flash reduction or conpensation, but that's me and we each have to do our own trade study.

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