LeBaron family murdered by Cartel in Mexico.

[Arik]

Not to sound like an ass, I do feel bad for them and the kids. Shit like this shouldn't happen. But we all know what countries are safe to live in, what parts are safe to visit...etc. If I were to move to El Salvador or Libya, Sudan, Congo or any other 3rd world country and something were to happen to me I would not expect or want the military involved. I wouldn't want some soldier to risk his/her life because I was too naive to know better.

[Averageman]

Scorched earth these heathen.

Just wanted to recommend some Crucifixion before Firefly got here.
I don't see a down side in a military action, cross the border smack 'em like pinata and zoom back home, add in enough air cover and call it a fiesta.

[Averageman]

Not to sound like an ass, I do feel bad for them and the kids. Shit like this shouldn't happen. But we all know what countries are safe to live in, what parts are safe to visit...etc. If I were to move to El Salvador or Libya, Sudan, Congo or any other 3rd world country and something were to happen to me I would not expect or want the military involved. I wouldn't want some soldier to risk his/her life because I was too naive to know better.

They left the US a hundred or so years ago to avoid some laws.
They aren't breaking those laws concerning multiple wives as far as I know anymore. They're just way invested in lad and agriculture.

[OH58D]

I know some Mormon Ranchers who have relatives in that part Mexico. A large group of polygamist Mormons left the US in the 1890's into the early 1900's because the church outlawed plural marriage. Some of that group still practice it, but most followed the modern LDS Church. There are numerous families in that colony, and they have names you might recognize:

Jeffs, Jessop, Crum, Farnsworth, Finicum and Bundy....

[Arik]

They left the US a hundred or so years ago to avoid some laws.
They aren't breaking those laws concerning multiple wives as far as I know anymore. They're just way invested in lad and agriculture.

Their private/religious lives don't concern me. They're not bothering anyone and I'm not one to judge. And even if they were braking those laws it's certainly not a death sentence.

The article I read earlier today said several decades. If it was a 100 years ago and they are now Mexican citizens by birth, in that case US has nothing to do with this. If they were US born and moved to Mexico they should have been well aware of where they're moving too. And definitely aware of what it has become in recent years.

[glocktogo]

It's time for the US to DICTATE the terms of engagement, at least with these two cartels. This terrorist style attack against innocent women and children resulting in the deaths of 9 American citizens, is sufficient to declare war on Mexico. I don't care what their family history is, we have a duty to protect our citizens, expats or not.

Mexican President Obrador is feckless and incompetent. He had better drastically change his approach right now, or he's going to find Apache gunships and A-10 Warthogs running sorties into Mexico with F-16 CAP.

[armtx77]

Not that this matters, but it is a piece being left out of the reports I have read. These were polygamists, returning from one of their franchises, that specializes in grooming young woman to be married off. Hence in another country.
A guy I am training, two of the people who were killed, are his cousins that he grew up with in Colorado City AZ.

They usually have to pay a safe passage "fee" coming back into the country. The Cartels know what is going on and as long as money is getting handed out, that all is bueno.

[TomMcC]

Just wanted to recommend some Crucifixion before Firefly got here.
I don't see a down side in a military action, cross the border smack 'em like pinata and zoom back home, add in enough air cover and call it a fiesta.

Agreed, if it was Al Queda or ISIS that was on our southern border we wouldnt be so squeamish about putting the wood to them. As it is, we're still thinking this is a law enforcement issue instead of a "we got a pile of crazed torturing murdering terrorists" on our border issue.

[Averageman]

Their private/religious lives don't concern me. They're not bothering anyone and I'm not one to judge. And even if they were braking those laws it's certainly not a death sentence.

The article I read earlier today said several decades. If it was a 100 years ago and they are now Mexican citizens by birth, in that case US has nothing to do with this. If they were US born and moved to Mexico they should have been well aware of where they're moving too. And definitely aware of what it has become in recent years.

I'm not unaware of their situation and to some degree I'm sympathetic to why they left.
I'm not sure how they manage to remain US Citizens, but many have done so.
I'm probably related to some of them in some way or another. My relations that were polygamous just stayed in NW New Mexico and kept their heads down.

[Outlander Systems]

We should have intervened militarily long before 5NOV19.

It's pathetic.

Agreed, if it was Al Queda or ISIS that was on our southern border we wouldnt be so squeamish about putting the wood to them. As it is, we're still thinking this is a law enforcement issue instead of a "we got a pile of crazed torturing murdering terrorists" on our border issue.