Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 52

Thread: What would you consider a split time on the ar-15 that show's "mastery"

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2019
    Posts
    19
    Feedback Score
    0

    What would you consider a split time on the ar-15 that show's "mastery"

    On an ar-15, what split time (while maintaining accuracy) would you consider "mastery" of the ar-15. for instance I consider running 1/4 second splits on pistol to be mastery of pistol speed.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    OUTPOST 31
    Posts
    9,055
    Feedback Score
    30 (100%)
    Split times don’t mean sh*t in the real world soooooo.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    “Answer The Bell...” J.W.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Location
    IN
    Posts
    1,027
    Feedback Score
    27 (100%)
    Youngling, one must first learn before one may master.
    “God doesn’t need your good works, but your neighbor does.” - Luther

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    733
    Feedback Score
    18 (100%)
    As jpmuscle says, splits mean very little.

    This is as good a place as any to start if looking for drills to use as benchmarks for skill progression:

    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...ration-Project
    Last edited by Tx_Aggie; 11-09-19 at 16:07.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    4,055
    Feedback Score
    10 (92%)
    Depends on the size and range of the target. In the day shooting IPSC I could run the el presidente in mid 3s only dropping 2-3 out of the A zone with the open pistol. Move the box back 10 more yards and I was lucky to do it in the mid 5s. Aiming takes a little time!

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    10
    Feedback Score
    2 (100%)
    Anybody can be a split time master if the target is big and close enough. Gonna need to be more specific there.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    9,392
    Feedback Score
    1 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by dean2007 View Post
    On an ar-15, what split time (while maintaining accuracy) would you consider "mastery" of the ar-15. for instance I consider running 1/4 second splits on pistol to be mastery of pistol speed.
    Dean,

    I would humbly submit that without knowing distance engagement, splits tell nothing as there is no way to determine what we are actually talking about aside from time. Splits under .15 are approaching good in my mind, but I read the question with the idea of things being up close and personal. If Jack reads that same question and is thinking about 100 yard 6" steel plates, he will think I'm a loon. If Cory is thinking about an active mall shooter class he just taught in a mall filled with people, his mind is wondering why splits are even a thread topic. That doesn't make any of us wrong, nor any of us right, what is does make is things situationally dependent.
    Stick


    Board policy mandates I state that I shoot for BCM. I have also done work for 200 or so manufacturers within the firearm community. I am prior service, a full time LEO, firearm instructor, armorer, TL, martial arts instructor, and all around good guy.

    I also shoot and write for various publications. Let me know if you know cool secrets or have toys worthy of an article...


    Flickr Tumblr Facebook Instagram RECOILMAGAZINE OFF GRID RECOIL WEB

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    1,527
    Feedback Score
    2 (100%)
    “Combat never sounded like competition splits. Unless you were shooting at the speed of panic.” From a guy who spent quite a while shooting at both people and paper.
    AQ planned for years and sent their A team to carry out the attacks, and on Flight 93 they were thwarted by a pick-up team made up of United Frequent Fliers. Many people look at 9/11 and wonder how we can stop an enemy like that. I look at FL93 and wonder, "How can we lose?". -- FromMyColdDeadHand

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Colorado Springs
    Posts
    6,758
    Feedback Score
    83 (100%)

    What would you consider a split time on the ar-15 that show's "mastery"

    Quote Originally Posted by ggammell View Post
    “Combat never sounded like competition splits. Unless you were shooting at the speed of panic.” From a guy who spent quite a while shooting at both people and paper.
    Good quote, but my guess is that he and his guys had/have a high level of proficiency. The fact that most shooters don’t have much, if any, experience on a two way range lead me to assume that damn near every SD shooting would be at the speed of panic.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Sic semper tyrannis.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    1,527
    Feedback Score
    2 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    Good quote, but my guess is that he and his guys had/have a high level of proficiency. The fact that most shooters don’t have much, if any, experience on a two way range lead me to assume that damn near every SD shooting would be at the speed of panic.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Correct in your assumption.
    AQ planned for years and sent their A team to carry out the attacks, and on Flight 93 they were thwarted by a pick-up team made up of United Frequent Fliers. Many people look at 9/11 and wonder how we can stop an enemy like that. I look at FL93 and wonder, "How can we lose?". -- FromMyColdDeadHand

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •