We Need To Do Better

[TomMcC]

This thread is going to age really poorly if it turns out there's no God....

It won't matter because nothing will matter or have any real meaning, the universe will eventually swallow us up. In the mean time we should all play the existentialist lest we go insane. Pretending is fun.

[TomMcC]

Not at all. Just those that want to impose their will on others. In closing, you’re blocked.


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The poor sap doesn't even realize he's actually contradicted himself.

[Outlander Systems]

Cuckservatives are the most vile creatures on the planet. At least the Left is naked in its evil. The Cuckservative's avarice above all else is truly awe inspiring. The culture can descend into a "socially liberal," literal abject hellscape, but as long as "muh GDP" is high it's all good in the hood.

You're right...it time to get back to the really important stuff like...how if everyone became a libertarian or if Republicans became Democrats on social issues or if we could just get more conservative judges the republic would be saved from the onslaught of socialists cramping our gun style and stealing our money.

[lsllc]

The poor sap doesn't even realize he's actually contradicted himself.

Not at all. You’re going to use lethal force to impose your will on others; people that want to simply be left alone. The minute you do so, we stop you. Simple as that. You leave people alone, you get left alone.


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[Outlander Systems]

"Muh NAP, dude"

Lolbertarians truly are pathetic.

Not at all. You’re going to use lethal force to impose your will on others; people that want to simply be left alone. The minute you do so, we stop you. Simple as that. You leave people alone, you get left alone.

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[lsllc]

"Muh NAP, dude"

Lolbertarians truly are pathetic.

Please, explain to me the value of “prison...or worse” because somebody who is doing no harm to another human being.

If you think it’s “pathetic” to refrain from rounding up people who don’t subscribe to your religion and putting them in “prison..or worse” I’m all ears to hear your justification.

Until then, I guess you have no problem with others’ holy wars?


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[Averageman]

I can assure you, that with the direction that this thread has taken, no, we really can't do any better.

[Jellybean]

Wow.

Once upon a time in my reading adventures I stumbled across an interesting series of books about a right-wing revolution in America, and a major theme behind the main plot was how they had to work hard to "keep religion out of it" because otherwise the whole endeavor would have be overthrown by those who can never cease to endlessly squabble about how their version is the right one, or how the only form of government needed was "King Jesus"...

Like many things I've read over the years, I thought it was crazy. Surely if the situation was dire enough to start a shooting war over we'd have much bigger issues to occupy our time than personal religious trifles.

In the years after that I've learned better, to my chagrin and endless disappointment; this thread is merely the latest case study on that topic.

I grew up in a highly religious environment; some would say "cult", but I'd differ on that term. Regardless, I've seen the insanity. It's the same as the left; the definition of "right" and "acceptable" and "moral" changes by the week, and by the group you associate with, and no two groups can agree, so they inevitably split constantly like some sort of psychotic amoebas that then turn back and eat themselves over even pettier "tests of faith" until they split again.
For the life of me I could never understand why so many of the people I used to know in that environment went so hard left after leaving, as if they couldn't help but go back to feeding on the only thing they knew.
But then, maybe they met some of the people here... who knows.

Regardless, if there was to be a re-arrangement, of government, I wouldn't let the religious anywhere near the levers of power any more than I'd let the communists/socialists. It would be just as disastrous. There's a damn good reason why we have "separation of church and state"...

Granted, lest I be called hypocritical given previous comments, yes, there MUST be a set of overarching ideals and morals that a society cohesively agrees on and adheres to in order to be cohesive. This current blight of not only partaking in absolute degeneracy, but REVELING in it like beetles in shit and demanding everyone else join in can only be met, fought, or counterbalanced by the righteous anger that is currently so lacking on "the right".
But there's also GOT to be a limit to the religious moralizing, just like you have to define a limit to a conquest lest the enemy turn and bite you back and undo all you've gained.
And I'm sure you can understand that when I say "righteous" anger I mean that little flame of fury you feel when something's not right, NOT a bunch of "wrath'o God" endless theocratic nonsense...

Anyway...to re-quote the relevant portion of this thread from a few pages back;

There is no "WE"...We’re all just here because we like guns

[Outlander Systems]

Mankind’s problems aren’t political in nature; thusly, by seeking political salvation, you’re effectively setting this entire thing up to be another rinse and repeat.

[Outlander Systems]

Mankind’s problems aren’t political in nature; thusly by seeking political salvation, you’re effectively setting this entire thing up to be another rinse and repeat